thanks for your reply liam the car has got standard wheels on it . interesting point on the resting foot on the brake after long braking etc !read about this recently which i put in my post . this car is an auto and the guy does do mainly motorway driving but when i asked him about his braking style he told me to do one and thought i was trying to get out of doing the job !!!! he has pretty much always driven bmw's and never had all this stress before ?? cheers for your input damian