Greg, I was also on SSGT Padgetts crew when we first went over there. I was the #3 man on the crew. Wasn't our jammer drivers name __Williams? I was sent back early to train with another crew, then came back to Takhli. When I came back I don't remember any of the old guys. But, in the meantime you and our jammer driver suggested that I volunteer for permeant duty to SEA, as I would most likely get those orders in the future. So I volunteered and was sent to U-Tapao for a year (1973-1974).