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WSWA State

Posted by Zach on 2/13/2025, 7:53 am

A dad on our team dropped the ball and didn't get his kid registered for state in time. His fault. He emailed Justin Newby and has been told they were capped. However, many kids have registered since then. Three on Tuesday. When the dad emailed Justin again he said they were capped. This is the days fault. No doubt about it. However, if you reopen registration for some, you need to for all. It appears Justin is playing favorites or aome strings are being pulled. Be fair WSWA. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Shame on you Justin.

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Posted by Wow on 2/13/2025, 9:16 am, in reply to "WSWA State"

Natural consequences. It's not the end of the world.

Instead of WSWA go to a national tournament.

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Posted by JHulegaard on 2/13/2025, 11:13 am, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Same boat- waited too long to register my 8th grader. I emailed Justin suggesting eliminating the high school and open divisions at WSWA Folkstyle State. I get there is limited entry for this event, but I don't think taking away opportunities at a "state" tournament for youth (8th grade down), is a good for the sport. Maybe it is an unpopular opinion, but I see no value for high school kids or adults. Expand the tournament, let the youth wrestle. Right now a WSWA folkstyle state place winner comes with an asterisk.

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Posted by Wow on 2/13/2025, 11:54 am, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Based on my experience, most people like a well run tournament that has a set number of participants so it doesn't run until 12am.

Otherwise everyone complains on the other side.

Like I already said, let the natural consequences occur. Miss this year, and go to a couple of National tournaments, or maybe even go to a couple of out of State camps to challenge your child.

My guess is you won't miss the next registration.

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Posted by Classic on 2/13/2025, 12:02 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

So you are too dumb or lazy to register on time, so we need to change everything and not let others compete? Makes sense.

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Posted by Wow on 2/13/2025, 12:23 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

I think you replied to the wrong comment.

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Posted by Classic on 2/13/2025, 12:34 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

We will add you to the dumb part of that response for not realizing it was to the original complaining posters.

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Posted by Zach on 2/13/2025, 6:29 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

I registered on time. Totally agree thr dad is at fault. But they are still letting kids register. But only the kids they want. That's shady and a crock. If it's open, it's open for all.

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Posted by Zach on 2/13/2025, 6:31 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Im not missing. Like I said it totally is the dads fault. But it's also shady that Justin is letting others register after it was closed but denying others.

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Posted by Very unpopular on 2/13/2025, 1:42 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

I think they should reserve around 200 spots for high school kids so they can sign up after district tournament. And the open division barely takes up spots. If you people signed up on time you wouldn’t have a problem with high school or open division.

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Posted by Man Crush on 2/14/2025, 2:08 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Dads at fault. As for Justin, he is so cute i dont know how anyone can call him shady.

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Posted by yup on 2/14/2025, 2:47 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

😅 good ol boys club...

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Posted by Wow on 2/14/2025, 4:03 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Justin Newby is responsible for these Dad's dropping the ball and not registering their kid in time?

Did Justin Newby interfere with the ability of these dad's to register their 8 year olds for a WSWA events in favor of his choices?

Short answer is no. Real answer is dad's messed up and want to blame everything but themselves.

Missing a WSWA state championship event is not a huge deal. I said it once and I'll say it again, send your kid to a camp in Iowa or Pennsylvania to get good training instead.

Easy for me to say since my kid is already a middle school state champ. I wear his medal at least once a week and show all my friends.

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Posted by JHulegaard on 2/14/2025, 6:44 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

What is this deadline everyone keeps referring to? There isn't a specific date, registration closed a month before the tournament, keeping how many KIDS from competing? If you can't see how that is broken, you're being intentionally dense.

Instead of sending kids to Iowa, why don't we run youth USA Wrestling like they do? There isn't a highschool division or an open division at usafolkstyle state, what's the point? So as a grown adult you can call yourself a state clamp? State championship for kids that can't make it in highschool? This is a serious question...

Change doesn't have to be scary. The sport is growing, finally, and some things need to change. In my opinion, and I guarantee I'm not alone, this is one of them.

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Posted by Class on 2/14/2025, 6:51 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

My opinion? A one day tournament with 1800+ wrestlers is a big deal. A much more prestigious tournament experience for those wrestling in the big house the day after the Mat Classic than what they had before. I have been to a lot of the kids only state championships in the past and moving to the T-Dome was, and is, a big deal, regardless of age. Just figure it out, and get your kid registered, before it fills up! It is a great time and you don't want to miss it.

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Posted by lol on 2/14/2025, 9:43 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

It has a deadline or….until capacity. Look up high school numbers and senior numbers. There isn’t that many compared to the total. And more than half of the u16 age group are 8th graders. How can kids triple crown at u16 or u18 if they aren’t allowed at folk style state. We were given plenty of warnings that the tournament was about full. Only the parents are to blame. I’ve been Thats parent, so I know how it feels.

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Posted by Wow on 2/14/2025, 10:02 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Are not allowed? You mean missed a deadline? Way different than not being allowed. So much entitlement it can make a person sick.

Natural consequences.

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Posted by Oh no on 2/14/2025, 11:56 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

How will little Johnny ever recover from not being able to be a 8 year old state champion. He will never forgive the dad for not signing him up and give him the chance to be a 10 time state champion. Justin does a lot for the USA wrestling program and you want to bash him for your mistake. Tell your kid you messed up and didn’t enter him and hope he one day finds it in his heart to forgive you.

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Posted by Shoddy Dads on 2/15/2025, 10:56 am, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

How many kids Ive seen where parents are glued to having them be USA Wrestling State Champs, only to fizzle out and quit by 9th grade. I knew if one screwball dad who chewed his kid out for losing in the finals. He actually would not compete in his down year because he didnt want his ranking screwed up.

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Posted by Zach on 2/16/2025, 8:47 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

But then he gets to pick and chose who he gets in after it's closed? That's ridiculous.

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Posted by Better on 2/16/2025, 9:46 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Better some than none.

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Posted by No on 2/15/2025, 5:18 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

I was talking to the person saying high school kids shouldn’t be allowed at kids state. If they stopped having u16 and u18 a state they wouldn’t be able to triple crown. Plus there are 8th grade u16 kids.

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Posted by Zach on 2/16/2025, 8:54 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Clearly Justin is your boy. Not being allowed is without a doubt the proper term. The dad missed the deadline. Yep. So did many other dads. But Justin is letting his buddies kids in when they miss the deadline. That's wrong. You cant defend that.

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Posted by Remember on 2/16/2025, 9:47 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

Bet they remember next year. Nobody likes to take accountability anymore.

Missing the point

Posted by Zach on 2/16/2025, 8:51 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

The dad screwed up. No doubt about it. But is it fair that Justin then gets to reopen the event and only allow certain kids to register late? That's what he is doing. He has done great things in Washington. But the favoritism he shows isnt one of them. Shame on him.

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Posted by JC on 2/16/2025, 7:40 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

The problem is::: anybody can register for state, that means you have 1300 kids who do not belong at state because all 1300 daddy's registered within 3 weeks then on the 4th week they shut it down when it hit 1700 kids. Then wswa allowed a few 100 more to make things right. BOTTOM LINE IS STATE SHOULD BE A QUALIFIER EVENT TO REGISTER. Bam, problem solved and you will have a great tournament with qualified wrestlers. Now State is gonna be real lame, guarenteed!!! If wswa wants to have a everybody in their mother state championship , they should make it a 2 day event! Everyone gets a trophy mindset.
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How about you read then original post

Posted by Zach on 2/16/2025, 8:59 pm, in reply to "Re: WSWA State"

At no time did I ever say Justin was at fault. Ill say it again. The dad dropped the ball. Issue solved.

Explain to me how Justin gets to reopen the event after it's closed for his friends. But when another person does he says it's closed. Then the following day he allows more of his friends to register.

We all agree this would not be an issue if the dad hadn't dropped the ball. But the favortism/good ol boys clubs isn't right.