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State so watered down now

Posted by Watered down on 2/8/2025, 5:56 pm

With no regionals now state will be watered down. It used to be an accomplishment just to get state now there are wrestlers with records with under 50% wins that are going. I get it WiAA is all about the money, most of the tournament won’t even be worth watching until the second or even third round now. Just a disservice to all of those retired wrestlers that actually had to work to get there. I know the top wrestlers will all be there, but wouldn’t be nice if they were in one tournament. The is always lots of talk on here about Washington wrestling and how it is top notch. Wake up big schools are never going to take our wrestlers seriously until we have one champion. Easy fix still have your division tournament and top two from each division move on. They have the dome on Sunday just run it then.

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Posted by Nope on 2/8/2025, 6:00 pm, in reply to "State so watered down now"

Thats too many days in a row of wrestling. Maybe the next weekend.

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Posted by Wrassler on 2/8/2025, 7:43 pm, in reply to "State so watered down now"

Depends on the district. Some of them are pretty damn tough- others not so much. What I don't like is having them on different weekends. Too much opportunity to dodge. The good news is state brackets will be actually seeded. So even if you win a joke district it doesn't mean you'll get a good seeding.

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Posted by Rex Star on 2/9/2025, 3:48 am, in reply to "State so watered down now"

Everybody that does not understand this new process needs to settle down. The state already has ways of expanding the state tournament. More medals, more trophies equals more participants and more money for the deep pockets of the WIAA.

Next year will be the team tournament. This will determine the state title. No keeping score at the individual tournament at the dome.

After that will be the JV boys state tournament. Details for qualification are being worked on.

After that will be the Middle School State tournament.

After that will be the highly technical gymnastics wrestling combined event. Where a judges score on how a move looked while being executed can make difference. Imagine pinning your opponent with a sloppy half Nelson only for it to not count due to a low judges score.

All of this can be yours at the dome, if the price is right.

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Posted by Complainer on 2/9/2025, 4:18 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Same old story line. Before you criticize the process, suppose all you whiners compose a list of the 16 in each wieght class who don't belong at state and see how many of those are on the podium in the end. It just ensures the top 8 are represented. Just saying.

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Posted by Coach on 2/9/2025, 6:54 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

I struggle when I hear people call it "watered down," as if that somehow makes it less legitimate. The tournament is twice the size, which just means more people are competing. The structure hasn’t changed,it’s still the same tournament, just with more wrestlers.

Some who might not have made it out of a tough region in the past are now in the mix. I’m not hearing anyone say their league left top wrestlers home. Sure, there might be a few easier first-round matches that didn’t exist before, but after that, it’s the same battle to the top. Except.. maybe a little more difficult because of the extra "good" wrestlers that didn't used to get out of the region.

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Posted by Our district on 2/9/2025, 9:39 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

It’s not working like that from our tiny district. There are kids at home that would have made it had we still had a regional tournament. I think it’s better for almost everyone. But it’s not for us.

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Posted by yup on 2/9/2025, 8:49 am, in reply to "State so watered down now"

I agree, I do see from the other perspective that it may be not as competitive because of more wrestlers but after two rounds it's back to who should be there.
I'm interested to see which side of the state this new set up favors now that the eastside will have as many kids making it through as the westsiders.
this will be interesting.

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Posted by Not watered down on 2/9/2025, 9:01 am, in reply to "State so watered down now"

It will not be watered down as much as you think it will however get the best 8 kids on those 2 days to the podium and at the right weight!!

Yes the round of 32 and maybe the round of 16 will have some quick pins but at the end of the 2 days those kids that would have been knocked out at regionals and been alternates because they came from a tough region will be standing in the podium where they deserve to be!! And do it really kill is to have a few extra kids in that took up 2 quick bout numbers to make that happen….NOT REALLY!!

This will be a good thing in the long run.

However WIAA failed us when it comes to alternates not being able to get in after Tuesday before the tournament….thats garage!

Maybe yall should call Kresterson at the WIAA office about that crap!!!

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Posted by Big9 on 2/9/2025, 10:01 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

So you are arguing that the state tournament is watered down, but are mad that the alternate who couldn't qualify for an expanded tournament doesn't get to go? Come on, man! If they didn't qualify, they definitely didn't deserve to go. For those of you who still bring uo the rare exception, life isn't fair. Deal with it.

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Posted by Yes on 2/9/2025, 11:26 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Our district is getting less to state this year. Because we are a small district. We could take more to regionals and because we are strong we got them out of regionals to state. Now we get less. Most if not all districts are getting more to state. If only we had a way to get the most qualified to state. Like an extra weed out tournament. Maybe we should do that.

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Posted by Watered down on 2/9/2025, 11:49 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

So in my original post I was just saying it’s not as big of an accomplishment to get to state as it used to be. Way easier now

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Posted by A Coach on 2/9/2025, 12:54 pm, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Totally agree.

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Posted by Yes on 2/10/2025, 10:14 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Many kids are going to state that shouldn’t be there. And there parents will be spending money to go eat t here kid wrestle less than 3 minutes. In two matches.

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Posted by Record on 2/9/2025, 7:55 pm, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

I am going to state as an alternate this year. I will weigh in and wrestler, or not, but either way, I already ordered the patch for my letterman's jacket that says State Qualifier 2025! So glad they made this change.

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Posted by Doh on 2/9/2025, 8:36 pm, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Sorry to pee in your Cheerios, but you are the reason athletes don’t wear letterman’s jackets anymore. They used to be something earned something respected. Wearing a state patch as a participant is not the same as “qualifying” as an alternate… especially in a year when twice as many wrestlers “qualify” for state. Do yourself a favor and earn that patch by wrestling a match in the Tacoma Dome. It will be much more fulfilling.

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Posted by LC on 2/10/2025, 7:54 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Let me guess, you also had to walk uphill, in the snow, to get your letter?

I don't think you're sorry to be "peeing in their cheerios" at all. In fact, I think you're a little TOO eager to try to rip on a kid as an adult. Anonymously, too. Pathetic.

Maybe YOU are the real problem.

BTW, kids still wear letterman jackets all the time. I graduated in the 90s from Tahoma and there was no "extra respect" gained for wearing them - people got them for pride in their personal accomplishments, just like today.

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Posted by Lol on 2/10/2025, 10:17 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

Guess you can’t read sarcasm. YIKES

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Posted by Complainer, re doh. on 2/10/2025, 11:17 am, in reply to "Re: State so watered down now"

You're being trolled dude.

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