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Landrover Discovery TD5 2000 - Entering EKA code - Fixed #

Posted by Alan Lange on January 25, 2014, 9:34 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2000

I had the above vehicle towed in by RAC with immobiliser fault. Customer didn't have the EKA code so emailed local landrover dealer log book & drivers license & they emailed the code back. The code they gave me is 12-13-6-8. I've tried to enter it by holding key to unlock for 5 seconds until beep, then 12 unlock, 13 lock etc. Final unlock should beep twice but only beeps once,(code failed)
I've tried locking it once after the initial beep (as I read that on net). Am I doing it right or maybe I've been sent the wrong code? Reg. W194 NFB, chassis SALLT6M97YA273978.

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 25, 2014, 9:57 pm, in reply to "discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Mark Carter

>>> Am I doing it right or maybe I've been sent the wrong code? <<<

Or perhaps the vehicles has had a replacement BCM at some time in its life? Just a thought.

Get it on T4 and read the code direct from the BCM

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 26, 2014, 6:21 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Alan Lange

Hello Mark, that's also a possibility I hadn't thought of. Out of interest do you have T4?

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Graham Bullock <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2744' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 26, 2014, 9:21 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Graham Bullock

Couple of links here may be of use

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f50/td5-eka-code-182340.html

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=37987

Graham

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 26, 2014, 10:30 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Alan Lange

Thanks for that Graham, the procedure in one link was the same as I was following. Will try again tomorrow. Alan.

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 26, 2014, 10:39 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"

Yes I have T4, anyone with Autologic (the OE one not the clone) should also be able to help.

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Darren Bamford <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5465' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 27, 2014, 8:15 am, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"

T4 or any other diagnostic tool will not help.

If the BCM is in a immobilised state (locked) then it will not allow any serial communications.

You have to successfully enter the EKA code the BCM will then be unlocked and will now talk to T4.

On a Disco II of this vintage I would have close look in the roof lining area in front of the rear sunroof. The receiver unit for the Remote key is there , suspect it may be a little wet.

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 27, 2014, 4:19 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"

I have done the above on a Disco II with T4, it WILL let you in,( it also works on a P38 with T4) I can not talk about other scan tools but T4 works (I assume that a tool as good as Autologic would also allow this)

Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 27, 2014, 9:25 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Alan Lange

Many thanks for the response's, I didn't get any time on this today but one of my mechanics did take the remote receiver out on Friday & said it was all dry there but I will check myself tomorrow. Mark, would you have a try at recovering the code if I bring it to you some when?

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Darren Bamford <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5465' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 28, 2014, 6:16 am, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Darren Bamford

Hi Mark

I will have to disagree with you on this.

If the BCM is locked (immobilised) you cannot talk to the BCM with T4 or Autologic.

you have to enter the EKA code first via the drivers door barrel.

Range Rover P38 from 2000 / 01 you can enter the EKA code using T4 but you still have to have the code first. Any P38 before this you enter the EKA via the driver door barrel.

Same rule applies to MG/Rover SCU , if immobilised it will not talk.

now the Rover / Landrover 5AS and 10AS are different again. You can talk to these and extract the EKA even if the immobiliser is active.

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 28, 2014, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Mark Carter

No worries,

We will agree to disagree at present.

I will look into it with the next one that comes in to my workshop and report back.

At present I would bet a weeks wages on T4 being able to do what I have posted. I am positive that I have carried out the procedure on more than one occasion and was surprised the first time myself (because I had the same security concerns as you)

But I will be the first to admit that I get things wrong from time to time plus the fact that it could be Alzheimer's or senile dementia setting in

Regards
Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Darren Bamford <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5465' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 28, 2014, 9:21 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Darren Bamford

Ok Mark , how much a week do you earn?

Don't waste your time trying it won't work.You have already lost this weeks wages , don't loose anymore time / money.

SYSTEM DESCRIPTION & OPERATION

I have copied this from LR Discovery II training manual.

The BCU has a serial connection to the diagnostic socket to allow unit interrogation using TestBook.

In addition to fault diagnosis, the BCU can be programmed with the following information:

l Plip codes.
l Options.
l VIN code.
l EKA code.
l EEPROM locking.

The following manufacturing details are programmed into the BCU which can be accessed using TestBook:

l Date of manufacture.
l Hardware version number.
l Unit serial number.
l Odometer reading.

It is not possible to use the diagnostic bus to communicate with the BCU via TestBook when the security system is active.

This is a security measure to ensure that no key programming or market configuration can take place if the operator is not in possession of a valid remote transmitter or the vehicle keys.

The BCU is normally programmed to accept two remote transmitters, but a further two remote handsets can be programmed into the BCU and one optional Self Levelling Suspension (SLS) transmitter.

All remote transmitters need to be available if TestBook is to be used to re-configure the BCU.

As already stated , you have to enter the EKA successfully using the door barrel switch first.

Then you can communicate with BCM...............

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 3:23 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Alan Lange

Darren, you sound annoyingly confident. Mark, I think we can prove him wrong & it won't cost you a penny

. (If he's right I'll keep quiet).

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Michael Whitworth <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5568' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 4:49 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Mike Whitworth - Administrator

Hi Alan,

>>>>Darren, you sound annoyingly confident<<<

He is!!!!

Mark,

You can never win an argument with Darren!! lol

Regards,

Mike

M.O.M. Miserable Old Manc

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Ian Baxter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1560' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 7:25 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Ian Baxter

Its Times like these I realise I know SO little about SO much

Love It

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 29, 2014, 8:17 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Mark Carter

Hi Mike,

>>> You can never win an argument with Darren!! lol <<<
I didn't know it was an argument, I thought it was just a difference of opinion/memory.

Darren,

Thanks for that, I probably have the same manual somewhere

its looking like my note about senile dementia setting in could be true

Memory can play tricks on you (me) and it appears to have done so here. My memory is still telling me that I have done exactly what Alan needs to do via T4.But I am not about to disagree with the written word from the manual.

Maybe its time to buy an allotment and learn to grow carrots (confused

Alan, I sent you a PM the other day.

Regards
Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 30, 2014, 8:04 am, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Alan Lange

Thanks Mark, found it.

Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code

Posted by Steve Norman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5548' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on January 30, 2014, 3:48 pm, in reply to "Re: discovery td5 entering EKA code"
Steve Norman - Administrator

I Agree with Darren.
I have never been able to comms with T4 on Disco 2 if immobilised & have had to use EKA first.

regards
Steve

Regards
Steve

Fixed #

Posted by Alan Lange on February 11, 2014, 9:14 pm, in reply to "Landrover Discovery TD5 2000 - Entering EKA code #"
Edited by board administrator February 13, 2014, 2:38 pm

Vehicle now fixed (thanks to Mark). I had been given the wrong code by landrover dealer. Many thanks for everyone's help.

Re: Fixed #

Posted by Dave Hill <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2783' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2014, 7:05 pm, in reply to "Fixed #"
Dave Hill

So who's information was correct Alan?

I had a similar experience a couple of years ago & I found that only a manual EKA entry via the drivers door lock, would allow serial access once more.

It is also very easy to over complicate the process of EKA entry & the web is full of various "correct methods".

Interesting thread!

Re: Fixed #

Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2014, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Fixed #"
Mark Carter

He had been given the incorrect code from his local dealer. They had incorrectly converted the HEX part of the code.

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

Re: Fixed #

Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2014, 8:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Fixed #"
Alan Lange

As Mark said, the dealer had converted B to 12 & C to 13, it should have been 11 & 12. I don't know how Mark read it from the BCM (probably way over my head anyway). Alan.

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