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Citroen Berlingo 1.9D 2004 - Fault codes P1102 & P1146 #

Posted by David Briscoe on November 13, 2010, 4:45 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2004
( Optional ) Engine Code or CC: 1.9d

Hi

Does anyone know what codes P1102 and P1146 are they are not in my Autodata books or on my autodata or tolerance programs. My solus doesnt give a good description

David

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Posted by Kevin Apps <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2589' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2010, 5:33 pm, in reply to "citroen berlingo"
Kevin Apps

David.
If its a 1.9 they would both refer to needle lift, glad i don,t have a snappy scanner.
Kev.

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Posted by david briscoe <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3054' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2010, 9:56 pm, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"

it is a 1.9 was in with a charging problem fixed that now its back the very next day not running and with these codes im begining to dislike bloody citroens

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Posted by Dave Hill <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2783' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 13, 2010, 10:51 pm, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"

Hi David

You have heard I am sure "What doesn't kill you, will only make you stronger!" This catch phrase becomes more relevant each day.

Those DTC'c aren't helpful & without accurate code definitions, you are left with more questions than answers.

I get the definition.....

P1102 MAF sensor in range / lower than expected. I found that through Google this evening, after drawing a blank on Autodata (current & legal). I don't know if the code is relevant to your system or not.

You really should point some questions toward your diagnostic tool supplier. If they aren't forthcoming with help, then vote with your feet.

I wonder if aircraft engineers have to muddle through with half arsed information? I very much doubt it.

Is your Snappy up to date? My experiences with the red brick are not as bad as Kev suggests.

Good luck

Dave

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Posted by david briscoe <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3054' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2010, 11:01 am, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"

hi dave
i only got the solus update last month the solus is saying injector needle lift according to the customer the van was down on power for a long time and also drank fuel ie 4 gallons to do 80 miles according to him. he also said he would leace the van ticking over for long periods. so i think ill pull the injectors and get them serviced first.

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Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2010, 11:48 am, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"
Mark Carter

Hi David, What system is the vehicle running?

Bosch, Delphi or something else?

What is the Engine code?

Is it an old Rotary Pump or Common Rail?

If the system has a needle lift sensor I can walk you through how to test it.

Regards Mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

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Posted by Colin Jelf <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1635' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2010, 3:50 pm, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"
Colin Jelf

Hi Dave
please check egr valve as well its a common fault for disc on end to break off & then wont start,you can remove unit -retrieve broken disc redrill & large countersink end face of disc,then spot weld disc back onto egr valve rod.
this may not be your problem this time but usually maf sensor fault is flagged when it is the case.
hth colin

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Posted by david briscoe <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3054' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2010, 7:48 pm, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"

it has a standard injector pump and injectors the van will start if you keep it turning over after about a min then run for 30 to 50 secs then stop dead. i havent looked at which system is fitted to it ill have a look tomorrow and let you know

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Posted by Dave Hill <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2783' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 14, 2010, 10:34 pm, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"

I wouldn't expect a needle lift fault to cause a stall. Maybe a harsh detonation type knock yes, but not a stall.

EGR or the doser valve would be my port of call.

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Posted by Mark Carter <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1428' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 15, 2010, 9:56 pm, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"
Mark Carter

Hi David, I agree with Dave, the needle lift sensor is the feedback sensor for the closed loop timing control and without the feedback system working the system will run in a failsafe LOS mode.

You can test the sensor with either a DMM in a static condition or with a scope in a dynamic condition.But I don't think it is your only problem.

Regards mark

Modern cars, Its all wizardry and witchcraft

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Posted by Tony Sefton <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5581' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 18, 2010, 8:41 am, in reply to "Re: citroen berlingo"
Tony Sefton

Hi David. Is it the one with Lucas pump and the Plastic inlet manifold with EGR and throttle flaps built into the intake at the front of the engine. ?? If it is then check for the throttle flap flopping about and getting sucked closed causing it to stall, or it could have a vac problem causing it to close.

H,T.H Tony.

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