I agree whole heartedly with you guys on both points you make, especially with the failings of the aftermarket data providers. I think if you do specialise, then you need dealer tools & dealer information to be able to offer a full specialist service. I have also found a few dealer sites that seem to give the aftermarket a reduced level of access to data, which does bring into question the validity of BER? BER......Now there is a subject that I am sure may have opinions on? lol Gunner