YouTube is interesting: many varied opinions and experiences quoted left right and centre.
Each one can "back up " their arguments with supposed truth. However most are wrong.
Martin did say a lot of observations which were different to the others.
I agree with his location.
Either way the plan is significant, but the truth is in Christ and the master plan.
Jesus is indeed the first born: all was planned before the world began: everything made through him. He is greater than man and yet man does not know Him properly unless they are called. Hence each in their own time makes great sense.
The master plan is all inclusive- systematic not chaotic.
Ross, I noticed in a post that you get on You Tube. Have you seen the video about the Temple being where the Dome of the Rock is? Supposedly they found the Ark of the Covenant under the Dome. Have you seen this? Does this mean that Dr. Martin was wrong about the Temple location?
Also, I was thinking about the birth of Jesus before the world began and wondered what everyone thought about this?
Jesus was called the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God. He was before ALL THINGS, which means he was the first thing that came into being. In (Revelation 22:13) Jesus says "I am Alpha and Omega, the BEGINNING and the end, the FIRST and the last".
So, Jesus was the first thing that had a beginning.
(Col.1:15) "Who is the FIRSTBORN of EVERY CREATURE". (Col.1:17) "And he is BEFORE ALL THINGS".
(John 8:42 Middle of verse. "for I PROCEEDED FORTH and CAME FROM GOD". (John 16:27-28) "I CAME OUT FROM GOD. Verse 28 "I CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER".
Could this mean that God birthed Jesus kind of like how we are born? Jesus was the ONLY begotten Son. He came forth from the Father. Begotten means to sire. The Father had other Son's but Jesus was the only one who was begotten. Jesus must have been the only one who came directly from the Father.
Just some thoughts.
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