the cupboard was bare. teh BWCT was nice, just in this day and age, the was no sustained excellence to build on. it was a one week jolt last year that followed a horrific regular season tailspin.
if MOnson had actually built something solid, he would not have been let go, it's that simple. when let go, the program was in bad shape, a team that beat Mich and USC on the road threw away a shot at a conference title or high seed, including unmitigated horrific performances at the Pyramid vs. SB, IRvine, and Davis. the BWCT was great of course, but that was no indication of anything sustainable, the most unexpected blip of a 17 year career, lol
a wining formula? less than 50% winning Record in D1 games over 17 years? what are you smoking?
again, in 17 years, out of 34 possible championships, he won 4 reg season titles, and 2 BWCTs, his championship winning % was 6/34 or less than 20%.
he had no formula. 10-10 in the Big West last year, when teh Big West was down compared to this year.
the program needed new direction. It might not work out. But CDM was not the answer
not sure why compare Cal Poly both this year in rebuilds, including LB with or without Monson
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#2 you mention all the time in your posts and it’s unclear to me what you mean because he left with jewelry on his finger. If I was a first time head coach I think I’d much rather build off of a championship than someone like Cal Poly who hasn’t won a league game in practically 2 years.
Regarding #4, I understand restarting if everyone left, but at least you know that Monson has a winning formula to win a championship. Hiring first time head coach is a biiiig restart Previous Message
1) I didn't say Monson was a bad coach.
2) MBB isn't doing well. part of the reason was the state of the program Monson left it in when he left.
3) anyone can criticize, of course. I just suspect some of it disgruntled Monson leftovers gloating cause their buddy is gone.
it is and was silly to think this year would be some instant turnaround. hoped for yes, but given whether Monson stayed or left it was all going to start over this year.
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A little advice LBCSB. Anything you say negative about what’s going on in the mmb program right now ccman turns it on you saying Monson was a bad coach and that everyone needs to RELAX! I’ve learned that CCMans ball knowledge is similar to the Alabama football fan Roll Tide Willie (look him up if you don’t know who it is). He doesn’t have any strong evidence on Acker being a good coach he just yaps about random shit a casual would see if he watched a basketball game.
But when you disagree with ccman… you’ve started a war lol. Sometimes it’s fun though to rile him or her up from time to time though Previous Message
Yes, there are certain players that are improving individually. I meant more program growth. After looking legit in December, they have regressed. And don't look like a team that's fighting to win for 40 minutes.
Sure Wainwright and Askew each shot the lights out in the second half of their respective losses. But especially at Northridge, the effort in the first half was abysmal. Going down 28 points is horrendous.
As a program, there's nothing that's pointing in the right direction. And in the portal era, it's unclear if some of our better players with eligibility will even opt to return. I.e. Kam, Wainwright, DMX, and Nagy are the one's that I hope do.
What even happened to Ramel Lloyd? Haven't even seen him on the bench.
would disagree about no growth.
Acker's struggled to counter for Big West opponents after the first week.
Martin has grown, grown and regressed
Lewis has definitely grown this year defensively, a little offensively, but not much in the right flow for taking a shot. still too in a hurry.
Wainright has improved.
DMX improved.
Denson, tough guy with bad habits to coach.
he's got a bunch of projects.
the Big West is brutal. the coaches know by and large what they are doing.
I do agree Acker is showing some teaching struggles though
I agree other coaches have done better first year, in Poly's case the coach was able to bring in players that already knew his system.
not an excuse, no question will need to both get some more talent and adjust/teach his system.
we'll see what he can do to adjust the offense. I don't like the spacing. it's heavily depending on really good ball handling far away from the bucket, yuk. it also puts the ball in Askew's hands a lot, which is understandable.
we don't pass and dish well like other teams.
next year we'll see his growth. Newman and DeGeorge I think benefitted from years as a head coach, adjusting offenses.
Still not sure that if we ran what Poly does, that we'd be any better, might be worse. or what Northridge does.
Les was a prior head coach, he struggled for 3-4 years with really poor week defensive teams.
Turner took a few years.
I wouldn't say it's in disarray. I saw a team that competed hard and adjusted vs. North and Poly 2nd half, despite some really poor 1st halfs Previous Message
My post had nothing to do with Monson. So I'm not sure if you're responding to me or the other commenter.
That being said, I don't think you can compare Monson's first year with Acker's first year. College basketball is so different, and other first-year BW coaches have performed better in this era. Just look at the two teams that beat us last week.
I think Acker absolutely deserves an elongated chance. Hopefully he learns more about being a D-1 head coach, and the types of players he needs to go after in the portal. Hopefully there are a lot of positives to come.
My point is that nothing I've seen this year is evidence of growth, which is a huge concern. Previous Message
these doom and gloom prognostications are silly
by that standard, Monson's first year was lost and not viable. had dominant player Donovan Morris (Askew), one nice frosh recruit, Plater (Kam Martin)
no offense, it's clear at this point you have no faith in Acker, who btw does communicate to stakeholders better than MOnson ever did.
the idea we are 'stuck' for 4 years, yeah, it's called a contract. and yeah, I think it's clear he's got work cut out. to make these conclusions is so frggn premature it's sad. people that would give a guy after 13, 14 years and in lower tier (8th place, 7th place losing to a 1-19 team, more rope, won't give a 1st year coach an inch of rope, that's sad it really is.
still. it's not a lost year. it's basketball. the program was in disarray last year entering the BWCT with horrific way below expectations regular season, attendance in decline, non communicating coach.....until got a nice present the week of the BWCT. Monson left the program in dissarary. Not Smitherin, not Acker. Monson, your buddy left the program and aslo crapping on the Unviersity on his way out.
the program is in much better shape than last year, with a coach with the talent to beat USC and Michigan on the road and win the BWCT, but not enough consistency to go better than 10-10 in a BWCT that was markedly down compared to this year.
seriously, the guy is a first year coach, with a motley crew he had to assemble on the fly because the prior coach drove the program into 'blahness'
if people want to dump all over Acker, that's their perogative. but sheesh, have some perspective of the huge mediocre mush and the program mired and stuck in the mud Previous Message
This is already a lost year. It appears we are stuck for the next 4 years. Not a viable situation.
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