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1A State Brackets do not seem right!

Posted by No Head to Heads? on 2/16/2025, 2:30 pm

Many head to heads not being taken into account.
Oliver Bryson beat Gabe Foreman by 1st round pin at rubber chicken, Bryson 4 seed and Foreman 2 seed? How?

Gage Stutesman beats Freeman of Mount Baker twice this season and Freeman is the 2 seed and Stutesman is 4 seed? How?

I will keep listing examples in this thread as I go.
It seems to me that the #1 criteria of Head to Head is not being utilized in the seeding criteria.

Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!

Posted by Wow on 2/16/2025, 2:42 pm, in reply to "1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

Saw in 3a a total ignoring of rankings, head to head and actual records. Some kids are listed with 4 matches when they have 30+.

Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!

Posted by Coach on 2/16/2025, 2:49 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

My assumption is that seeding is based off all the criteria and wrestlers earn "seeding points"

Head to Head record between the two wrestlers this season
○ Highest winning percentage versus common opponents this season
○ Highest returning Washington State Tournament place from previous year
○ Winner of qualifying tournament this season
○ Most varsity wins this season
○ Most wins in previous Washington State Tournament
○ Wrestlers are still tied, each receives a ½ point

Looks like Freeman, Novak and Stutesman all tied with 21 "seeding points"

Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!

Posted by Wow on 2/16/2025, 2:53 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

I know what you're saying, but I see some data missing in some areas.

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Posted by Seeding Points on 2/16/2025, 3:15 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

So if three wrestlers are tied in seeding points, the guy who beat one of them twice goes to the 4 seed? And the guy who has lost twice gets the 2 seed? Head scratching.

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Posted by Weird stuff on 2/16/2025, 3:23 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

This is crazy. WIAA never fails to screw stuff up. Just go through the brackets and you will see

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Posted by Paying attention on 2/16/2025, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

All the brackets are a mess. Just look at seeding lists and you can see criteria isn’t followed. Coaches need to advocate for their athletes.

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Posted by Just saw on 2/16/2025, 3:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

Just saw a kid ranked #3 and he DNP at any significant tournament, and two kids who smashed him are at #6 and #7.

Nuts

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Posted by Coach on 2/16/2025, 4:35 pm, in reply to "1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

The brackets on track for Mat Classic says “not be released to the public”. Where are you seeing this?

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Posted by Brackets- on 2/16/2025, 5:07 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

They had them up, but now they are back to being unavailable to the public.

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Posted by No name on 2/16/2025, 8:20 pm, in reply to "1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

Justin kesterman is an idiot and needs to be fired.

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Posted by Mat Classic on 2/16/2025, 8:45 pm, in reply to "Re: 1A State Brackets do not seem right!"

Mat Classic used to be really cool. Every year it seems like they take things away or make unnecessary changes. Miss what it once was.

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