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Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #

Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 22, 2016, 1:01 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2008
( Optional ) Engine Code or CC: 1.6 EP6 (5FW)

Hi All

Just a heads up really on poor quality Bosch coils from ECP

A customer had his picasso into a garage for a misfire, they diagnosed a faulty coil on cylinder 4. He took the car away and replaced no 4 coil from ECP (Bosch pencil coil)

There was still a problem with no 4 cylinder misfiring so he asked if I could take a look. I swapped the coil to another cylinder and it looked like the coil was faulty

The only thing I noticed that when you put the connector in and pulled the cap down it usually pulls it in the last few mm. This was not doing that, I lifted the cap and forced the connector into the top of the coil and pulled down the cap, but did not seat very well......but the car started without a misfire

I phoned ECP and told them that it looked like poor manufacturing and they agreed to send another one down....exactly the same, the cap does not locate on the connector properly and pull in the last few mm to connect

So I am guessing that Bosch have these made for them and their name etched into it, the cost of the coil was £19.00

The guys at ECP not really interested, just said all their Bosch parts are genuine

Peter

Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #

Posted by tony bickers <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5143' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 22, 2016, 4:20 pm, in reply to "Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"

Be interesting to source a "proper" Bosch coil from a Bosch service centre to compare

Most likely a Chinese copy Bosch part, does seem silly cheap at £19 ???

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Posted by Alan Lange <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3293' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 22, 2016, 7:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Alan Lange

I fitted a set of Bosch glow plugs today & noticed a small silver sticker with a web site address to check parts are genuine.

Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #

Posted by Keith Simpson <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1240' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2016, 8:38 am, in reply to "Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"

I wouldn't expect anything else form ECP. I bet your bottom doller it's not genuine.

Keith

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Posted by Andy Mason <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2936' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2016, 12:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Andy Mason

The problem is as you said, when it goes wrong they don't care.
All they want to do is sell the next dodgy part to someone else.
They aren't a factor, they are a car parts retailer, and not sure how good they are at that.
Andy

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Posted by Paul edge <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2887' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2016, 1:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Paul Edge

Just had a bosch boost pressure sensor from ecp it a clear plastic bag
So sent back.
Got one from somewhere else.in a proper box with security tag
Lesson learnt

Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #

Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 23, 2016, 9:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Lee Mackintosh

Andrew Page are also selling rubbish parts sourced from Euros as i found this out with an EGR valve which was supplied as a genuine Pierburg part.

Turns out (from a trusted source) that Pierburg don't yet sell it into the aftermarket for my particular application as its under license to Ford until 23rd December 2016.

When questioned about it as the part appears faulty (another story) they weren't sure what has been supplied as it came via ECP.

AP rep came out today and thought it was OE by the part number so he checked with there source for OE parts, sure enough its not yet listed and they can't supply.

The truth is and I quote "we haven't a clue what make it is and where it came from" so read imto this as you want.

sorry for the long post.

Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #

Posted by Antony Powell <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3923' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2016, 8:32 am, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"

One things for sure the counter staff will have no information upon where stuff comes from other than their own central supply warehouse.

Can you honestly see head office bothering to tell mere counter staff where they buy everything.... no chance

Link: specialist seized injector and glow plug removal services

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Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on November 24, 2016, 9:05 am, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Lee Mackintosh

This was the branch manager and the area rep, neither had any idea where it came from.

I was in my office with the rep when he made the phone call to there OE product supplier, I see his facial expression change when it wasn't from them.

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Posted by Francis bennett <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3809' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 1, 2016, 7:34 pm, in reply to "Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Francis Bennett

Hi all just read this now and I must say I didn't no Bosch made car parts in Slovakia haha. Ecp at it again

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Posted by Ed Kaps <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5536' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 5, 2016, 10:15 am, in reply to "Re: Citroen Picasso C4 EP6 (5FW) 2008 - Poor quality ingnition coil from BOSCH #"
Edward Kaps

Bosch have factories throughout the world and all are supposed to produce the same quality of manufacture--according to Robert Bosch Philosophy.
I do remember a race spark plug application where the German plugs performed flawlessly whereas the Indian factory equivalent were virtually unusable.

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