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Posted by Peter Warman on February 12, 2016, 2:46 pm

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Hi Guys

All the vehicles that we currently service are petrol and diesel. With the increase of Hybrid vehicles I am just wondering how many of you service these types of vehicle as routine

Do you advertise the fact that you do Hybrid vehicles?

Did you or any of your staff do a training course with regard to the servicing of these vehicles?

If you did do any training on these for servicing can you recommend a course?

I am sure there are plenty of them out there now and we may be missing out on additional revenue

Any advise welcome (including any pitfalls)

Thanks

Peter

Re: Hybrid Vehicles

Posted by DAVE McCALL <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5415' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2016, 8:37 am, in reply to "Hybrid Vehicles"
David C McCall

Hi Pete hope you are well, I run Hybrid courses IMI level 3. I have run this for several years, if you give me a call I am sure we can work out a favourable rate for you Dave

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Posted by andy pethig <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3731' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 15, 2016, 3:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles"
Andrew Pethig

i have a IMI level 3, we are in london and there are a few hybrid vehicles around now, but i am begining to think , they are owned by tight fisted F**kers.

Just had a guy come in , How much to change the oil and filter if i bring my own oil and filter???

£45.00 i say,

Thats a bit much he says....

not the first one , they seem to think that as the cars are ,

A cheep to run,

B.exempt from conjestion charging,

C. road tax only costs £10.00,

that every thing else should be close to free and they also buy there tyres on line .

( i am sure all the owners dont fit the above sterio type )

So are you missing out?????

not yet , if they end up replacing the diesels, who knows , but the toyota prius is a very well engineered vehicle, and if the new line up is any thing like the prius, we may have to wait a while before the tills are ringing to the hybrid tune

Re: Hybrid Vehicles

Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2016, 12:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles"
Peter Warman

Thanks for the offer Dave will bear you in mind

Peter

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Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2016, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles"
Peter Warman

That's one line of thinking Andy

and probably fairly accurate

I must admit I do not think I have had one enquiry yet about servicing Hybrids. I have also remembered i have a Toyota specialist a mile down the road from me

, so not much point at the moment until they are more common place

http://www.toyotec.co.uk

Peter

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Posted by Andy Mason <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2936' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2016, 4:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles"
Andy Mason

We service a few of these for companies who use them as pool vehicles, interestingly, they report they are always the last vehicles left in the car park as they are seen as drawing the short straw and only move when everything else has gone
Andy

Re: Hybrid Vehicles

Posted by Tony Ludford <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5539' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 16, 2016, 8:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles"
Tony Ludford

Definitely worth doing if you have a Kia or Hyundai dealer nearby Peter.

I know Kia will have 11 Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid or Electric vehicles by 2020.

Tony

Re: Hybrid Vehicles

Posted by sean savage <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5559' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2016, 12:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles"
Sean Savage

If ANY customers bring their own parts i just ask

"would you take your own steak to a restaurante and ask them to cook it???" whats the difference??

go away :-)

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Posted by Tom Williams <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5478' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 18, 2016, 6:18 pm, in reply to "Hybrid Vehicles #"
Thomas Williams

I've done both the courses that Bosch had on offer a couple of years ago. I believe that they were Level 2 & 3. The were well run and I learned quite a lot.
The downside was that the health and safety aspect was done to death and took up valuable time,because they had to accommodate the lowest common denominator in terms of trainees.
For example, there were guys on the course who had no idea about Ohm's Law.
There are all sorts of urban myths surrounding the dangers of Hybrids, especially post-accident. In fairness one of the trainers said they had talked to the Fire Brigade; whose spokesman said that you wouldn't be expected to wear rubber gloves and wellingtons to change a 240V AC light-bulb in your house.
Most good technicians could probably pass the written 'exam' to qualify for C & G Hybrid level 3 without attending the course. The questions were multiple choice and common sense would enable most to pass.
One of Bosch's regional trainers for hybrids sometimes posts on these forums. He is very well versed in hybrid technology.

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Posted by Anthony Pickering <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3715' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on February 23, 2016, 9:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles #"
Anthony Pickering

Had a few in for mot and odd bits but only hybrid that has needed the rubber gloves on for work was my own prius to remove hv battery and clean and seal the cell copper links.

Also had to recharge the hv battery after I killed it.

Little word of warning, the prius engine can appear to be running when it is not, mg1 spins the ice at 1200 rpm trying to fire up and doing so can kill the hv battery quickly.

Knowing this I won a bet with someone who did not believe me it can run without the coil packs connected. Also misfire diagnosis is awkward as on three cylinders it sounds like its on all four.

Dealers do not help, I had a recall and at the dealer they offered me prices on servicing, I told them I maintain it myself which they said was very risky and should be done by their dealer techs only. I was not best pleased when they cocked up the repair.

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Posted by Tony Lewis <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3975' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 8, 2016, 11:00 pm, in reply to "Hybrid Vehicles #"
Tony Lewis

I've just signed up to do a Delphi level 2 course and intend to follow it up with level 3 if I think it's worthwhile. I have recently started my own business and had someone who rejected a flyer when I was handing them out locally. They said they only ever have electric or hybrid vehicles so wouldn't ever use me. This encouraged me to do a course - and yes I will be advertising with another relevant flyer through their letterbox once I'm able to do so!
I have also been asked about servicing hybrids by another customer and there seems to be an unusually large amount of them in my area.

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Posted by tony bickers <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5143' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 9, 2016, 5:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles #"
Anthony Bickers

Although this is future car parc, I am deliberately steering away from these, do any of you know if you pull in a Prius for example, if you shove it up on a ramp your trader policy is immediately invalidated?, these things can fire up on a ramp with no engine oil in, by the time you get it to ground level it is eating its own engine, no, hybrid will lead to huge cost in tooling, let alone software and diag, that will have to be manufacturer led,not for me , and to add where does that leave Halfrauds ???

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Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 9, 2016, 8:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles #"
Lee Mackintosh

I've only worked on a couple of Prius's but I always take the key out and put it in the office when doing any work such as oil changes.

Never had one self start this way. Also can't you pull the service plug in boot for double safety.

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Posted by Anthony Pickering <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3715' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on April 10, 2016, 9:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Hybrid Vehicles #"
Anthony Pickering

as long as the car is not in "ready" mode the engine will not start on a toyota hybrid.

having the key in the toolbox or office is extra insurance, no need to pull the hv plug out (you need gloves to remove the plug), just disconnect the 12v auxiliary battery, radio's are not coded and the clock is easily reset.

what has been causing the issues is when a prius rolls on the ramp in ready mode without the ICE running, it can be mistaken that the ignition is off, ramp up the car, drain oil and boom the ICE starts up and seizes up.

as long as some training on these vehicles has been done these are a huge money spinner.

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