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Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2014, 12:55 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2006ish
( Optional ) Engine Code or CC: Seat 01435

Hi Guys

Another one today, dash ESP light on (3 in 2 weeks)

Seat Leon II 2006 Mark 60 ESP

01435
-Brake pressure sensor 1
-Circuit failure
-Permanent

Was wondering how you guys are dealing with these ESP faults, are you repairing yourselves? exchange units? sending to dealer?

Is it a good earner, or just hassle, what sort of time scale for repairs, coding back in required?

Is it likely to actually to be a sensor fault or have you had other issues worth looking at ie wiring, poor connections

I need to get my head around this fault more

Peter

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Posted by Peter Holland <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5256' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2014, 1:11 pm, in reply to "Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Peter Holland

VAG were supplying a "repair kit" for these the last time I needed one which was a few months ago now. They supply a complete modulator minus the ECU for around £180 if my memory servers me correctly. Not sure what sort of job it is to change on your Seat but they are not normally that bad to get to.
VAG are the only ones offering this as far as I know though.

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Posted by Chris Angus <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5111' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2014, 1:27 pm, in reply to "Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"

I've done a few of these now, it's a straight forward job, no coding required as you are just replacing the hyraulic side, just got to calibrate the pressure sensor, we use autologic for this which is simple, I would think vcds is simple enough too.

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Posted by Jon Morgan <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3190' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2014, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Jon Morgan

VAG offer a repair kit for most MK60 Teves units, automatics are the black sheep where a repair kit is not available.
The Brake Pressure Sensor (G201) is an integral part of the modulator.
Remove the ABS ECU & Modulator together, replace the modulator as per the in box instructions, refit & bleed.
Reset the brake pressure sender & job done.

Quote 3 hours, you'll get the hang of doing them in a 3rd of that when you do a couple.

Ford also offer repair kits for the Focus etc...

Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #

Posted by Paul Winwright <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5356' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2014, 3:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Paul Winwright

We have had a 2006 repaired under warranty by VW for a customer with no problem.It had not even got full VW service history.So might be worth a phone call.

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Posted by Jon Morgan <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3190' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 9, 2014, 8:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Jon Morgan

We had 2 x VW delaers local to us, one always refused to do these under goodwill & the other always agreed to do them under goodwill.

No rhyme nor reason to it, so definitely worth a go...

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Posted by sean savage <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5559' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2014, 3:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Sean Savage

The repair kit is half the abs valve body. very easy job to remove and replace peter. the steering angle sensor and pressure valve have to be re-coded but snap on does it with the press of a few button.
The repair kit is about £145+vat we charge £120 labour. as said,can be done in about an hour after first one. dont shy away,very straight forward

sean

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Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2014, 3:16 pm, in reply to "Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Peter Warman

Thanks Guys that's just the feedback I was after

The three I have seen I have told them to have a word with their local dealer first as it appears some are doing them FOC and some are not, If they come back to me I will take a closer look. The Citroen C4 was an Auto, so was the Seat the Golf was manual, interesting remark by Jon that no repair kit available to Auto's?

Any future ones I will probably tell them I can do, but let them check with their dealer first, don't want to find out later they could have had it done FOC

Thanks again

Peter

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Posted by Tony Bickers <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5143' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 10, 2014, 6:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Anthony Bickers

BMW will also do goodwill repairs on these Mk 60's, Did one for me on a 2005 1 series a few years ago

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Posted by andyhyoung <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5148' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 11, 2014, 1:56 pm, in reply to "Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Andrew Young

Bmw 1 and 3 series abs hydraulic modulator is £175 from main dealer.Just make sure you talk to a parts person that knows what he is talking about.One dealer quoted £1300 for a complete unit,phoned a different branch of the same name dealer and got quoted for the repair kit,and on the shelf.

Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #

Posted by Nick Favell <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3407' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 12, 2014, 5:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Nicholas Favell

As others have said, we have now a couple of these, found them to be a fairly straight forward job.

Nick

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Posted by Peter Cooper <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5508' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 14, 2014, 10:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"

Hi Peter

We have done 3 of these now.

The first one we did came back with a spongy pedal.
We re bled it manually by pumping the pedal. Couldn't find the bleeding process on our VCDS AKA VAGCOM lead.

The second one came back with spongy pedal and we carried out the bleeding process where the Bosch KTS takes over and tells you when to open the bleed nipples and the ABS pump starts up and pumps fluid out. Then lets you bleed it manually.

3rd one went ok .
We used the Bosch KTS to bleed the brakes.
We couldn't find how to reset the brake pressure sensor so used the VCDS lead to do that.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Brake_Electronics_(MK60)#Special_Procedures

Print out the instructions from the link above for Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)and folow them exactly. You wont need to do all the other tests as only changing the hydraulic unit not the ECU.

ABS lights will stay on after clearing codes and the pressure adjustment. Drive the car for a few hundred yards and it will go off.

Regards

Peter Cooper

Peter Cooper

Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #

Posted by Peter Warman <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=Peter+Warman' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 16, 2014, 1:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Peter Warman

Thanks Peter

Peter

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Posted by Jon Morgan <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3190' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 16, 2014, 2:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Jon Morgan

Spongy pedal can be avoided by part pressing the brake pedal before you start & locking it in position.
Brake Pedal Jack, lump a wood, cracker bar etc....

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Posted by Lee Mackintosh <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1348' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on December 16, 2014, 7:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Lee Mackintosh

I know this is probably obvious but i changed a valve block on a Laguna a while back and found it difficult to get a decent pedal even using a pressure bleeder. (it stopped ok but just didn't feeal as it should)

Got out my Bosch KTS to active bleed through ABS and it was like a completely different pedal.

So i'd deffinetly reccomend this method if scantool allows it.

Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #

Posted by Leslie Smith on December 21, 2014, 11:51 am, in reply to "Re: Seat / VW / Citroen - Brake pressure sensor #"
Edited by board administrator December 22, 2014, 12:16 pm

As Jon said use a a bar to hold pedal down then after fitting just let the fluid come through by itself and bobs your uncle. Done over 10 of these and never had to use pedal or pressure bleed to get a good pedal. Maybe just been lucky.
Regards
Les

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