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Vauxhall Vectra 1.9 CDTi (JTD Fiat engine) 2008 - Water pump failure, replaced with timing belt #

Posted by Steve Sneap on July 11, 2014, 6:43 am

Year of Manufacture *: 2008

Hi All

Last November replaced timing belt and water pump on this vehicle.Last month and 12643 miles later it was recovered to us on flatbed with massive timing belt failure ,turned out the water pump had seized melting the plastic guide pulley next to the pump and stripping the teeth off the belt this in turn had caused the valves to crack all cam followers .A huge bill to repair.

I am trying to recover costs from supplier,The water pump in question was a BGA (British Gaskets Automotive.
They are dragging their feet on this and I was wandering if anyone else has had this.
Thanks for reading
Steve Sneap

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by aidan birley <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2879' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 11, 2014, 7:40 am, in reply to "Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Aidan Birley

Steve

I would suggest that the Factor who supplied the pump are responsible to reimburse you, not BGA directly.

lean on them hard

I have never used BGA pumps, but don't rate there gaskets after a problem with a rover head gasket.

Cheers Aidan

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Steve Sneap <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5333' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 11, 2014, 8:51 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Stephen Sneap

Hi Aiden
We are all learning(even after all these years)if we have a problem with a certain make we try not to use the again. I realise the factor is directly responsible, I am just being patient the moment as they have promised that it will come to a satisfactory conclusion. BGA are being a bit arsey....wanting original invoice for the job ,head repair etc.All of which were supplied at claim time and subsequently a second time because they "lost" them.Has anyone had to make a claim like this before?
Steve Sneap

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Kevin Apps <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2589' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 11, 2014, 10:19 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Kevin Apps

Steve

BGA good luck !!!

"they "lost" them" not for the first time.

Kev.

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Kelly Clarke <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1397' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on July 13, 2014, 11:34 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Kelly Clarke

I had a similar problem with a seat inca van but a first line pump. I told my supplier that they were liable and they would have to claim from first line who dragged their feet the solution was I ran up a bill with the factor to the same amount and told them I was stopping using them an not paying their bill as that is what they owed me for the job.
Needless to say within a couple of days I had my money.

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Steve Sneap <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5333' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 1, 2014, 7:35 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Stephen Sneap

UPDATE. Just had an offer from BGA of £600 as a goodwill gesture, I have refused this as the bill to repair was £1171,20. They are offering a labour rate of just £25/hour.(ours is £45.).Watch this space.
Steve Sneap.

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Mark Rushby <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1535' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 2, 2014, 7:15 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Mark Rushby

I had this with a bga water pump on an audi a6 allroad v6 tdi. Snapped all the camshafts, Â£400 each off audi. Total bill was Â£2700 if I remember rightly. Supplied through andrew pages. All off them dragged there feet all the way.
Eventually got the money but having to pay up front to get the car fixed contributed to me going bankrupt about 6 weeks later. Will never touch anything from bga again.

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by paul goswell <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5240' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 4, 2014, 8:54 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Paul Goswell

all a bit scary i had a bga pump on my sons fiesta diesel go 3 months after fitting it, luckly he said to me it was making a strange noise, i checked it and the bearing had collapsed and the belt was just hanging on, camberleys replaced pump no problem but what would have happened if it had broke belt ? should we all not think about fitting genuine pumps and belts i know its a bit dearer but nobody wants to go bankrupt or have the worry.

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Paul Howd <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5151' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 7, 2014, 8:52 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Paul Howd

Who "Makes" the "Genuine" OEM pumps (Or the first line, BGA or whatever for that matter)??

How willing are the OEM supplers to settle such claims??

Does going OEM actually make spontaneous failures any less likely or their resolution any easier?

:/

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Ed Kaps <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5536' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 8, 2014, 10:00 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Edward Kaps

'How willing are the OEM suppliers to settle such claims', Well, VAG and BMW want the cars in their workshops for diagnosis on any failure of their parts and if there is any consequential damage as here, you don't need to be Einstein to figure their response- incorrect fitment etc etc.
Warranty is all a bit untidy but stick with it Steve-keep a note of all the time you are spending resolving this and next time tell them up front that it will be part of your claim against them,
Perry Mason
AKA Ed Kaps

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Steve Sneap <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT5333' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 9, 2014, 7:25 am, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"
Stephen Sneap

UPDATE, Factor has offered to add £200 to BGAs £600.Thier manager is back on Monday I will argue and finalise this with him then. Early this week I emailed BGA direct and guess what... no reply|
Steve Sneap.

Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE

Posted by Joe O'farrell <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3685' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on August 10, 2014, 3:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Vectra1.9 cdti (jtd fiat engine) WATER PUMP FAILURE"

Hi I had similar issues with a turbo failure, after 6 months of no progress no response from the manufacturers, I made a small claims court action against the factors , who supplied the turbo . Within 4 days the area manager credited my account with my full claim Â£1800!. Im no legal expert but i think you have to take it up with the factors .
Hope this helps
Joe

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