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Renault Scenic 1.9 DCi 2004 - Clutch bleeding procedure #

Posted by Piotr Sokolowski on October 16, 2012, 3:16 pm

Year of Manufacture *: 2004
( Optional ) Engine Code or CC: 1.9dci

Clutch bleeding procedure
I just wondering how you guys are getting opn with clutch bleeding on this cars? we have one we replaced clutch slave cylinder and after that clutch pedal is only half way working. We tried force the pressure from the bottom to the container but there is still air in there. Any advices guys/ much appreciated

Link: http://pandpauto.co.uk

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by James Eardley <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3143' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2012, 8:55 pm, in reply to "Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
James Eardley

Hi Piotr

I have had a few cars do the same, no matter what you try you just can't get a full pedal.

Try using the drivers seat and a bar to clamp the pedal to the floor and leave it overnight with the brake fluid lid off.

I havn't got a pressure bleeder but,
Up to now for me this method has got a 100% fix rate with these stubborn clutches.

hth
James

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by Piotr Sokolowski <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1848' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2012, 10:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"

thanks mate . I left it over the weekned and stioll the same buuuuuuuuu.......

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Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by James Eardley <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3143' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 16, 2012, 10:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
James Eardley

Another method I use is to connect a length of pipe straight from the bleed nipple to the reservoir and gently pump away for a while.

James

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by aidan birley <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2879' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 7:57 am, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
Aidan Birley

Hi

Try this,

As you now have some pressure, with the nipple closed get assistant to press & hold the pedal down. Them open the nipple and let system pressure force the fluid out. close the nipple with pedal still down.

Repeat this a few times and see if it helps.

cheers aidan

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by Piotr Sokolowski <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1848' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 8:40 am, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"

thanks for you help guys but are you aware this system doesn't have proper bleeder point. It has got this funny double point pipe which you need to disconnect one step to get the fluid out. Thanks so far anyway.

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Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by Neil Mellor <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2785' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 9:19 am, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
Neil Mellor

If you manage to get the clutch pedal working halfway try pumping the pedal perhaps 20 times with the bleeder closed
making sure the pedal is brought all the way up to the top and it should self bleed the existing air left in the system

good luck

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by mark mcgrath <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2806' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 5:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
Mark McGrath

is this the type where you push pipe in one click and fluid comes out of a open stub then you click in again to close the port
we have had success by running pipe up from stub up to master cylinder resevoir and leaving to bleed itself for a while while doing other work up to an hour
when fluid stops rising in pipe press pedal to floor and click pipe to second position
this works for us most of time
the odd one we have to use pressure bleeder with low pressure HTH

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by Piotr Sokolowski <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT1848' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 9:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"

thanks Mark this is the same bl*****dy system I will try and I will let you know . Best regards

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Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by Dave Hill <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2783' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 10:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"

Hi Mark

If you place a pipe on the slave cylinder nipple & terminate it at the reservoir & leave the system "open" to bleed, then surely you won't bleed it?

The termination point needs to be lower that the source, in order to gain a flow.

Mind you, in the event of a system being left open over night, then it is quite likely that the air bubbles will follow their natural path to the top.

This might explain why a tea break often sorts these kind of problems

Things don't need to be so complex do they!

What on earth is wrong with a conventional bleed screw?

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by con morrin <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3018' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 17, 2012, 10:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
Conleth Morrin

Hi lads, Renault's are often difficult to bleed out i often use a 20ml syringe, connected to nipple via pipe open bleeder and pump back up in master cylinder thus removing any air.

Con.

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by liam clohessy <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=ukat3050' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2012, 9:40 am, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"
Liam Clohessy

Piotr, had same problem with 04 laguna a while back.Fitted master cylinder and slave cylinder and could not get clutch pedal.Eventually got squeeze pump and removed pipe going to master cylinder from reservoir and also removed pipe coming out of master cylinder.Attached squeeze pump to pipe going to mc and pumped fluid through mc.When fluid was running pulled clip on bleeder on sc and pulled pipe back 1/2 inch,then put squeeze pump onto bleed nipple on top of sc and sucked fluid through sc.Had clutch pedal after this andpumped maybe 20 to thirty times before full clutch returned.Hope this is of some help to you.Surely designers can come up with a system where a master cylinder does what it is supposed to do and pump fluid through the system.Sometimes it can take longer to bleed the clutch than to replace same.

Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure

Posted by mark mcgrath <iframe src='https://members4.boardhost.com/ukautotalk/info/user=UKAT2806' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on October 18, 2012, 7:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Renault scenic-clutch bleeding procedure"

quote dave hill"If you place a pipe on the slave cylinder nipple & terminate it at the reservoir & leave the system "open" to bleed, then surely you won't bleed it? "
dave liquid finds it own level the weight of fluid in the master cylinder will push downwards fluid will come out of the orifice in the pipe will bleed through untill it achieves a level slow but works
law of gravity and all that s**t
prepared to be shot down but put fluid in a manometer does it not level
building site water level through a very long hose will always level
the temination point does not have to be lower

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