Big R I jumped all over you simply because you called out a division you knew nothing about. Just like I can't say much about C. He made a lot of the same points I made and you agreed with him. Maybe your just too hard headed to listen to a rec player? His homerun idea has merit because right now there isn't much difference in rules between D and E which entices teams to play down, hence why weaker E teams formed Rec. Then Rec hr rules are exactly the same as E so now E teams drop to Rec. We are all in agreement that Rec doesn't need to exist.