you don't need a 45,000 stadium
a 15,000-20,000 stadium would suffice. you could actually have a marching band (the best part of football IMO, lol). some of the same stuff. you'd probably have to get to the Big Sky
I think a Cali Big WEst conference with Sac State, Davis, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego,...and Beach might be neat and I think you only need 6 teams for a bid to the FCS playoffs
plus this new 105 schollie / roster is just ridiculous. How in hades did that get approved? that change alone proves the NCAA is bull-sh%t. Just crazy that 85 wasn't 'enough'? Really, you need to field basically FIVE F'kng football teams for a D1 football program. just grotesque beyond grotesque. you do not want to even try to compete with that.
even then, FCS is tough. the Montana schools have it down. none of those will go to the Mountain West. the added cost, just to say you are D1 would mire them in mediocrity. They are ranked and compete for FCS championships and have great FCS programs. It can be done.
Cal Poly is FCS and it's horrible. 1 or 2 win seasons, <4000 fans. It's become sad. but they'll keep trying for the reasons you say. Enough boosters I guess they don't want to lose. But IMO those 'old school' boosters are dying out.
I hate football at this point. To me it's lost almost any redeeming value for our society. The Football-Industrial-Complex has become a self-fulfilling prophecy of excess beyond excess. But I guess people are addicted, be it nostalga or gambling or the sheer 'spectacle' of it all. Gladiator type stuff. I hope it implodes and think the P4 will implore, there is not control and they'll continue to try outspend each other and there will be more Oregon States and Wazzou's left by the wayside. it's not over. I do other things on Saturday and Sundays now.
rant over!
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Economics aside, I think having football is a good thing. Fall sports seem to be lacking at LBSU without a main mens sport. Generally speaking, football draws older, male and wealthier alums back to the campus. Without those type of alums and fans, you've seen the big decline in donations and support for Niner anthletics. But, you're right, FCS level won't get you there. You need to be at FBS level where the San Jose State's of the world are. The conference affiliation money is puny compared to the P4, but it also dwarfs the Niner's revenue without football. I think it also helps sports like basketball in that we'll have more revenue to increase coaching salaries. SJSU has almost zero history of success in basketball even in the old PCAA, but they pay their coach close to $600,000 because of their conference media arrangement. We're paying Acker less than half that amount. Better salaries generally means having access to better coaches. Previous Message
to compete with the FCS schools?
Sacramento football is the SF 49ers
we need a $250 endowment to even think to do D1 football, plus a $250 M endowment to even get a stadium started or rent out the one in Carson at some cost.
Fresno could not get the city to get a bond passed to support
you could spend a billion dollars to get into the Pac-whatever or Mountain West that might not even exist in 10 years.
football is atrophiing at the youth level. It is driving so many unintended bad decisions, so why would we waste one ounce on a sport that no longer has any positive influence on much of anything?
the four football P4s will change in the next 5-10 years, as the effects of Universities trying to become pro football franchises has more fall-out. OSU & Wazzou were the first and won't be the last.
Heck, if we had Ack as the coach 6 years ago, maybe the Pac-whatever would be inviting Beach & Gonzaga as basketball only members.
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but all the excuses apply to Sac State as well. Sac State has a new president who is a huge supporter of Sac State athletics. Look who we have... Previous Message
https://www.kcra.com/article/sacramento-state-announces-new-hornet-stadium/62390273
If you're an alum from the 60's or 70's like me, this is downright depressing. Crappy Suc State moving ahead while we're stuck and sliding downwards...
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