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Ranking don’t matter when seeding state

Posted by Chill on 2/17/2025, 12:23 pm

Whatever ranking you’ve seen a kid at, doesn’t matter or factor into seeding for the state tournament.

Bottom of page two: https://assets.wiaa.com/results/wrestling/2025/2025WrestlingPostseasonSOPs.pdf

What does matter is after criteria is scored and seeds are assigned the appropriate seed needs to match the bracket placement. 1v32 at top 2v31 at bottom 3v30 same side as 2seed 4v29 same side as 1seed.

After seeding is determined, it doesn’t appear there is any further criteria to split certain wrestler like years past since there is no regionals.

Best wishes to all at state.

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Posted by Wow on 2/17/2025, 12:47 pm, in reply to "Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

They took them down again, but saw a number of examples of head to head where the poorly ranked seed smashed the higher ranked seed, and also won districts, and the other person lost their districts.

Some high level messes right now.

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Posted by lance on 2/17/2025, 1:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

The thing that I don't get is that I saw several weight classes where a first and second place from the same district were meeting in the quarters. That should not be hard to avoid, I don't care how weak or strong your district is the 1 and 2 should be on opp sides of the bracket

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Posted by Agreed. on 2/17/2025, 1:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

This is a mess and unless the people "fixing" it have any clue of the kids actual records, head to head, and do some digging...it looks pretty dumb.

In the same respect, if they rank a kid #24 when he should be #2, that's bad for everyone else as well.

It would interesting to know what is really going on.

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Posted by Wrong on 2/17/2025, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

No that shouldn’t matter at all. Seek out tougher in season competition so you have better head to heads and strength of schedule. You shouldn’t get to float to a different side of the bracket just because you’re in the same district.

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Posted by Its better on 2/17/2025, 12:58 pm, in reply to "Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

This way is better by far. No more one school getting 24 kids in and automatically getting to be the opposite side of the bracket from each other. Now the actual season record matters. Plus one less opportunity to cut down on injuries with an extra regional tournament. What this will also encourage is for people to seek out more head to head matches during the season.

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Posted by Nope on 2/17/2025, 2:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

What’s it’s done is once the head to head happens the winner takes medical forfeit so they don’t get a lose the next time. They need to make medical forfeits be done with tournament. They shouldn’t be allowed to continue once declaring a medical forfeits.

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Posted by Yup on 2/17/2025, 2:33 pm, in reply to "Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

They shouldn’t take into account who is from where just seed the kids where they should be. Some are sending 1 some are sending 8 they can’t be bothered to keep the 8 away from each other. It is what it is maybe we get regionals back and get rid of districts next year.

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Posted by 1A/B on 2/17/2025, 3:39 pm, in reply to "Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

They aren’t using their own SOP criteria. There is ZERO head to head criteria being input. You can see it in the seeding info. That was supposed to be their #1 Criteria and they aren’t even using it. Complete joke.

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Posted by Yupp on 2/17/2025, 3:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

Agree! The brackets are bunk. And how many times are they gunna change them? What a joke

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Posted by 1A/B on 2/17/2025, 5:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

Sounds like they came out with their SOP criteria but have no idea how to make it work in Trackwrestling. Head to head shouldn’t be this hard to figure out.

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Posted by yup on 2/17/2025, 3:48 pm, in reply to "Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

Are a single regions top 3 placers supposed to be on the same side of the bracket?.
One bracket has the top 3 placers meeting in the second and third round??.
Why go to state to wrestle kids from your own league in the first couple of rounds???...

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Posted by Guess on 2/17/2025, 4:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

How many more times will they change the brackets? Question of the day?

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Posted by Complainer on 2/17/2025, 5:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

Its a whole new process and it appears to me they're working hard to get it right.

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Posted by Wow on 2/17/2025, 5:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

If new process means inaccurately seeding, they are doing a great job.

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Posted by Who cares on 2/17/2025, 8:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Ranking don’t matter when seeding state"

The seeding has ZERO to do with what district you are from. We didn’t have regionals this year so not sure why you keep saying region. If all 8 from one district are on one side because of seeding Thats how it should stay. Seeding is seeding.

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