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Trumps ban of non female in girls sports

Posted by Curious on 2/6/2025, 3:55 pm

Does anyone have any idea if this new ban that Trump just signed this week will affect post season for wrestling here in Washington?

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43719883/what-know-trump-ban-transgender-women-sports

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Posted by Ted on 2/6/2025, 4:22 pm, in reply to "Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

https://www.columbian.com/news/2025/feb/06/washington-sports-association-seeking-legal-counsel-after-trump-executive-order-on-trans-athletes/

Looks like the mentally ill will get at least a temporary waiver.

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Posted by Dumb on 2/6/2025, 5:00 pm, in reply to "Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

By non female do you mean boys?

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Posted by cowards on 2/10/2025, 9:02 am, in reply to "Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

are there any wrestlers in Washington that are trans? Seems like a bunch of grown men act terrified of some stuff that isn't even a problem

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Posted by Biggest Surprise on 2/10/2025, 9:25 am, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

The word "terrified" is polarizing.

Many have suspended their logic on gender/sex when it comes to genetic makeup and male/female development.

I guess doctors and scientists can experiment in treatments to modify appearances, genetics, hormones and the like.

It will never change the fact that a woman is not a small man.

Generally speaking, their is a spectrum of size and aggression amongst the male and female population. I have no doubt there are plenty of females that could beat men in wrestling within the population.

At the higher competetive levels, I personally would say 9th Grade and on, but let's just say College age for the sake of a solid argument.

The only kids left at higher level college are the best ones. Not just in wrestling but every sport. The biggest, fittest, strongest, most skilled. In wrestling it's about 1% of high school wrestlers.

Nobody has to be terrified to show concern or want to protect another person from men who compete against women at that level. Or in high school for that matter.

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Posted by WesternWa_Guy on 2/10/2025, 9:55 am, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

It's about Fair Play.

Biological male trans competing against biological women is not Fair Play.

Fair play is why we have weigh-ins

This is all self evident.

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Posted by Nope on 2/11/2025, 9:58 am, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

I know a female in the Spokane area that can mop a lot of boys at her weight. Make it a two way street.

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Posted by One on 2/11/2025, 10:17 am, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

So one girl out of the whole state can beat a boy? What is your point?

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Posted by Nope on 2/11/2025, 12:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

How many guys are you talking about that want to go in to girls wrestling? How many competitive guys? If you think it is only one girl in the state that cannot get wins against guys, your running scared. Thats my point softy!

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Posted by Girls on 2/11/2025, 6:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

If girls don’t want boys in their brackets boys shouldn’t have to have girls in their brackets. Boys have different reasons to not want to wrestle girls. If you can’t see that. It can’t be explained.

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Posted by Biggest Surprise on 2/11/2025, 12:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

Why wouldn't it be a two way street?

The biggest issue, at it's core, is safety. It's unlikely a female to male will ever dominate events, or injure the other males in the sport. I guess there is a possibility but it's low.

The opposite is true for male to female transitioners, regardless of what gender their brain is telling them they are.

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Posted by Terrified ? on 2/10/2025, 10:11 am, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

Do you have a daughter that has been subjected to competing against a boy in a contact sport? It’s NOT safe. So yes I will always stick up for the girls. Someone needs to. But good try, attempting to make us parents moms and dads look crazy. Caring for girls safety is NEVER crazy. To answer you question, I have no idea if Washington has any trans wrestlers, wrestling in the girls division.

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Posted by girl dad on 2/10/2025, 2:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

I believe it's always healthy to practice and train together and believe in fair treatment at all times.
I firmly believe that boys compete with boys and girls with girls.
Amy mixing g of that wh3n it comes to competition is asking for trouble and injury.
Anyone who calls that crazy is not living in reality and should step back and really think about what they are saying.
Go Hawks

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Posted by Practice on 2/10/2025, 3:01 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

Practicing is fine, competing is not. I think we agre.

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Posted by For Real on 2/10/2025, 3:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

The LGBTQ community, specifically Trans, has been able to harness an extraordinary amount of political momentum with many State and Federal elected officials nationwide. This has been an emerging trend for many years now and culminated in Biden's election to the Whitehouse in 2020 (A Watershed moment for that community).

They have been quite effective through persistent and active participation within our political establishments. And they spend money, lots of it.
Pink Money is considered to be in the Top Tier of revenue/donation source to the Democratic party across the country.

Be that as it may, lets not confuse political momemntum with common sense.

Allow me to repeat, lets not confuse political momentum with common sense.

Bio boys competing against Bio girls in any physical sport is non-sensical. It's not fair play. It's not safe.

Furthermore, the concept requires one group of citizens (girls) to forfeit their access to "fair play" in order to grant an enormously
unfair advantage to another group of citizens (Bio male Trans).

Although it may be forced down our throats by our political system, It will never make sense. WIAA is not isolated from politics by the way.

You can't make people agree with it and that just drives posters like "Cowards" insane. It's not enough for them to change the rules, they demand that everybody accept that it's right and fair.

Not gonna happen.

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Posted by In The Know on 2/10/2025, 3:29 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

About 5 years ago there was a female wrestler that transformed within a few years from being a girl to having a boy appearance.. shaved her head to a buzz cut and changed her name to a boys name. She was obviously taking medication to inhibit male appearance/growth. She was an average wrestler before the medication to having crazy strength within a year. It was quite unfair and caused a stir. USA washington and USA wrestling were concerned about it. She went onto College and fizzled out due to drug testing. Most of you involved in HS or USA Wrestling know exactly who Im talking about. Any type cross gender medication or sex change in sports is unnacceptable. Our girls need to be protected.

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Posted by Biggest Surprise on 2/10/2025, 5:43 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

Who was it? Is his name off limits?

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Posted by In The Know on 2/10/2025, 7:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

Yeah, Typically Dave will remove this thread when someone complains. So they will not be named. Sorry

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Posted by Answer on 2/14/2025, 11:14 am, in reply to "Re: Trumps ban of non female in girls sports"

There was one at least one a few years ago.

As for the second part of your comment, do you also wait for a home fire to buy fire insurance?

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