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3A rankings

Posted by Wrestler on 2/10/2023, 3:29 pm

I think you left out Charles Parker fro North Thurston at 138 in your rankings

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Posted by Dave G on 2/10/2023, 3:38 pm, in reply to "3A rankings"

Give the ranker some details to save him some time. Who is Charles Parker and what specifically has he done to be ranked. Thanks.

PS: The Humint ONE is busy on another pressing assignment for me so updates to 3A may have to wait until after regionals for the one guy. Sorry, we just have to prioritize time allocations.

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Posted by 3a coach on 2/10/2023, 4:57 pm, in reply to "3A rankings"

how does matai sarte of lakes beat a lincoln kid twice in one tournament and that kid ends up on the rankings but the winner is no where to be found, also the seeding for that 3a region 3, 220 weight class should be readjusted bc how do you beat a kid for third and end up having a tougher pull than the fourth placer that u jus beat twice the week before

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Posted by L on 2/10/2023, 5:26 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

something with 3a region 3 120

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Posted by Dave G on 2/10/2023, 5:27 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

What district was he in? Can you give me the track link? I can't even find a trackwrestling profile on him to look at. Can you send me the link to his profile to review this years results?

It looks like he is the 9th seed at regionals which makes it a tough road to state and a ranking. It doesn't show any head to head with the others there that I can tell. Humint went 20 deep on the rankings and anything over 12 starts getting a little hard to predict or follow. Just trying to help you understand the rational. Good luck to your wrestler.

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Posted by 3a coach on 2/10/2023, 7:31 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

these matches happened at 3a pcl district tournament not a big deal bout rankings but i do think the 3 seed from pcl deserves the favorable seeding over the pcl 4 seed almost seems like a reward to take 4th over 3rd. guess that's an argument for the actual tournament tho appreciate your input/response.

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Posted by Watcher on 2/10/2023, 8:55 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

I understand what you mean about the rankings but Are you saying a better draw because Sarte pulled The standwood kid? The Lincoln kid still has to wrestle a district champ if he makes the second round.

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Posted by 3a coach on 2/10/2023, 9:17 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

i’m talking about how if both pcl kids win their first match the lincoln kid has a far more favorable match against bainbridge than lakes against number 1 ranked shorewood, i’d be fine wit them keeping the same first round matches but jus switch their spots on bracket since lakes wrestler has 2 h2h wins against lincoln he deserves favorable side

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Posted by Watcher on 2/10/2023, 10:40 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

Understandable but when there’s already a system for it, track don’t care who’s ranked where. I’ve seen a lot of post season brackets go in a similar fashion because of the system they have in place. You can’t just cherry pick match ups because it doesn’t work out for your guy.

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Posted by 3a coach on 2/10/2023, 11:09 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

its not cherry picked when our guy has two head to head wins against the other kid. both of those being in the league tournament just last weekend and the last match was for third and fourth. the better seed should be earned not luck of the draw... but we'll see what happens tomorrow

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Posted by Brackets on 2/10/2023, 11:22 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

Regional brackets do not take into account head to head or anything else besides what place you got at sub regionals the week before.

My understanding is that if there are 3 sub regional tournaments feeding into the regional tournament, then each weight is determined by a random draw of a few different set variations. This is done sim to state so that matchups even out for the most part over all combined brackets.

So your wrestler who got 3rd is placed in a set spot in the bracket based on which bracket format was drawn for that weight.

Using this format sometimes results in better wrestlers getting "worse draws" as you are putting it.

But this is the only fair way to do it for regionals and state, because it takes the human biased element out of the equation, and puts all 3 sets of sub regional qualifiers on the same playing field.

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Posted by The HUMINT One on 2/10/2023, 11:40 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

I see what you mean....but I also took into account the Regional brackets and who might get out. That also went into the rankings. I don't see any reason to rank a kid when there's a chance they may not make it out of Regionals, but anything can happen. It's all in fun and exciting for the fans to see the rankings, but I've never heard of a tournament that uses our Rankings for any of the seeding criteria. Good luck to all wrestlers tomorrow, and stay healthy.

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Posted by Dad on 2/11/2023, 12:49 am, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

Ok. You can rank him next week. Lol

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Posted by Coach on 2/10/2023, 11:12 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

Charles Parker took 8th in state last year. He won districts last week. He is 27-5 this year wrestling in some tough tournaments. He beat the kid at 145 that’s ranked 3rd 6-1. Is that enough? I have more. Doesn’t matter though. 138 is the toughest weight in 3A. Let’s see what happens.

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Posted by The HUMINT One on 2/11/2023, 1:24 am, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

See my previous post.

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Posted by Fan on 2/10/2023, 7:34 pm, in reply to "3A rankings"

Andrew Finsrud placed 7th at state last year by the way. Isn’t on the rankings.

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Posted by Placer on 2/11/2023, 7:01 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

and didnt he just get 6th in regionals today? How many make it to state from this region?

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Posted by Wrestler on 2/11/2023, 1:04 am, in reply to "3A rankings"

Parker from north Thurston beat the #2 guy in 145 rankings last year at state and the #3 guy in 145 rankings this year. I know 138 is stacked but you might give home the benefit of projecting him out of regions this year. He is like 28-6 on the year and placed 8th last year. It’s ok. Guess he will show what he is about this week. Appreciate your rankings but really?

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Posted by Bobby on 2/11/2023, 6:39 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

He is definitely top 16 in State with a 4th place finish at Regionals

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Posted by Well... on 2/11/2023, 9:31 pm, in reply to "Re: 3A rankings"

... actually placing 4th in one region only makes you one of the top 19 wrestlers in the state :-)

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Posted by HS Fan on 2/12/2023, 2:55 pm, in reply to "3A rankings"

Parker was previously ranked -at his previous State wgt of 145. If a wrestler changes weight classes toward the end of the season, then notify the ranker. If they are getting significant wins, notify the ranker. It's that easy.

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