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Girls classification

Posted by Mom of girl wrestler on 9/28/2022, 6:52 pm

Just got news today that they split the girls!not sure if this is a good thing or not. We will see. Excited to see what state will look like this year

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Posted by Wish on 9/29/2022, 6:09 am, in reply to "Girls classification "

I wish they would “unsplit” the boys. Too many classifications for that tournament. Too many “champs.” Want to make it easier to fit in the dome and run the tournament ? Less classifications.

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Posted by All for on 9/29/2022, 8:18 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

All for growing our sport, but this is a terrible idea, girl studds will still dominate and place at tdome... but we are now going to have headlocks and headan'arms on full display showing the lack of state talent in front of hundreds... $$$ driven

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Posted by Disagree on 9/29/2022, 9:10 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Some of the world's best have some mean head and arms! If you are getting pinned by it it's on you not them!

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Posted by One Bracket on 9/29/2022, 10:13 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Can someone explain how two 10-girl brackets is better than one big bracket? Texas and California have way more female participants, and they run single brackets.

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Posted by Answer on 9/29/2022, 10:17 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Everybody gets a trophy mentality.

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Posted by Blah on 9/29/2022, 11:06 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Taking away the opportunity to be the Best in the state is annoying. "To grow the sport" so the idea is to let girls who only come out for the HS season make the podium? This mentality and culture in WA is why we are a weak wrestling State.

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Posted by LMAO on 9/29/2022, 10:43 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Don't be comparing Washington wrestling to California or Texas.

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Posted by In the know on 9/29/2022, 11:03 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

I said several weeks back this was coming. This is a good thing. More opportunities means more numbers. This is not a money grab or participation trophy. This is about getting more girls involved and creating more opportunities. It may water it down for a couple years but at the rate it is growing it won’t be long before the competition catches up.

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Posted by Stop on 9/29/2022, 11:20 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

The theory that state podium spots is holding back girl's participation is ridiculous. I get that the coaches association, which didn't coach a single female state placer between the 10 of them last year might want to double the number of placers. Otherwise there's no reason not to just go to a 32 bracket.

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Posted by Slow your role on 9/29/2022, 11:52 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Y'all need to remember it is HIGH SCHOOL athletics. The goal is for the inclusion of any and all students interested in participating in sports that are specifically provided for them. So, out of all that want to participate, they have an opportunity to qualify for their culminating tournaments. This philosophy has nothing to do with who's best in the state. IF that is the interest, those wrestlers can participate in the off season programs where the competition is more elite. And then you can go to national and get it handed to them like last year.

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Posted by WIAA Sucks on 9/29/2022, 12:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

This is a great opportunity for lousy coaches to brag that they coached a State Champion. Last year there was more Round Robin style duals than ever. Multiple teams had holes and not enough girls to fill a roster. There are elite girls in WA and not everyone that placed at State was great. Now we will have more girls that don’t deserve to be there. They just don’t! Grow the sport the right way. Get the numbers up. Why not combine the boys while we are at it?

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Posted by wrestler from wa on 11/13/2022, 10:21 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Can please you tell me just exactly how some girls who participated or placed at state “didnt deserve to be there”? It’s the same qualifications for boys to make it to state we compete in subs and regionals just the same, with even more difficulty these past years with all classes combined??? you make 0 sense and tbh nobody cares who you deem 'good enough' to be on the podium. you’re telling me you’re upset that girls state is finally becoming more fair for us? if you truly believe that then your the lousy coach.

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Posted by Dave G on 9/29/2022, 9:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

I like your attitude and your opinion. Everything you said it true.

"Y'all need to remember it is HIGH SCHOOL athletics."

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Posted by Steve Davis on 9/29/2022, 1:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

I've heard that it will be two 12 girl brackets, which is 24, better than 20 last year BUT I heard earlier today that 12 girl brackets are not official, they'll wait until they see team and individual numbers before WIAA will make a decision. So could be 12-12, 16-12, 16-8...who knows. WIAA is always late to rule on wrestling.

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Posted by Question on 9/29/2022, 3:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Thanks Steve. Do you have any insight into why two 12 girl brackets (or whatever), as opposed to a single 24 or 32?

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Posted by Steve Davis on 9/29/2022, 5:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

The decision was made to split them, don’t think WIAA really considered a 24 or 32. Too easy to split and eventually have 16’s like the boys down the road

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Posted by Ummm on 9/29/2022, 1:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

You must not understand how Coaches Associations work. All of the girls and boys coaches are part of the same association. It is made up of volunteers who want was is best for wrestling. Many coach both boys and girls. This came from WIAA and complaining moms, not the association.

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Posted by How it works on 9/29/2022, 3:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

According to https://www.washingtonwrestling.com/board the WSWCA board has 10 members from 10 schools. None of which fielded a single girl state placer last year. All I'm saying is that competitive girls wrestling does not have representation on that board.

And according to WIAA minutes, they were working with the WSWCA on the decision. Was anybody from any of the top girl's programs in the state involved in the decision?

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Posted by Explain on 9/29/2022, 3:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

So girls wrestling is the only sport in high school where you have to be combined with the entire state to be considered “good” and not have watered down state. Every sport boys or girls has multiple classifications. But let’s make girls wrestling one division so we can brag about winning the entire state. Good for you if you coached a girl state champion in all divisions. But your gonna sit here and act like when or if one of your wrestlers wins a state title your gonna tell them well it was way easier. That’s crap. The elite girls and boys no matter the division will go on to compete at national tournaments and get more recognition from those than they do a state title. No one 5 years from now is going to talk about how someone did not deserve to be a state champion at a certain weight cause in your opinion that weight class wasn’t strong. Your the same boy coaches who move your wrestlers around to find “easier” brackets so your kids can place. Girls will stay one division if you leave your boys in the toughest weight class knowing they don’t have a chance to win it or place high

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Posted by OK on 9/29/2022, 3:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Girls only get a handful of tournaments each season. It's about not cutting the quality of 3 of them (district, regional, state) in half. It's about letting the best girls wrestle each other as much as possible. But go off for whatever reason, I guess.

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Posted by Clairity on 9/29/2022, 4:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

So for clarity, you only get do have a voice if your team is a top team? Or you only get to serve as a volunteer on a board if you have a top team?

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Posted by Well buddy on 9/29/2022, 5:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

How about we start with at least one school that scored in the top 50? And maybe more than one woman on the board while we're at it.

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Posted by Spslfan on 10/2/2022, 7:51 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Only Washington would do this.

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Posted by Constitutional Conservative on 10/2/2022, 7:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Your right. I blame Inslee.

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Posted by Spslfan on 10/2/2022, 7:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Hardly but the ilk that would vote for him after covid might be the culprits of this mess.

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Posted by Constitutional Conservative on 10/3/2022, 8:56 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Don't forget the dolts in Oregon, California, Illinois, New York, etc. Idiots everywhere. The election was stolen and they are coming for our guns and wrestling next. True patriots like you and I need to stick together and root out the truth. I got your back brother.

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Posted by Spslfan on 10/3/2022, 11:53 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

I highly doubt you have read the constitution nor do I get riled up over a troll… try harder Bc you probably aren’t coaching better. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Posted by Constitutional Conservative on 10/3/2022, 8:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

So you don't have my back?

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Posted by Spslfan on 10/5/2022, 4:39 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Do you think your funny? Maybe you should get a few more tattoos.

You aren’t conservative nor have you read the constitution…

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Posted by ÷ by 2 on 9/30/2022, 4:21 pm, in reply to "Girls classification "

Well it'll at least give all the state medalists to this point bragging rights, and well deserved.

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Posted by IDK on 10/3/2022, 10:26 am, in reply to "Girls classification "

Its not like they'll wrestle collegiate in college.

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Posted by oh please on 10/3/2022, 1:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Well its people like you that are the reason they won't wrestle in college. There is a coach from Washington that is now coaching at the collegiate level and he will recruit all the Washington girls and will create an empire!

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Posted by Steve Davis on 10/3/2022, 1:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Oh Please, they don't wrestle collegiate in womens college wrestling

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Posted by 🤔 on 10/4/2022, 11:35 am, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Girls wrestle freestyle in college don't they? They don't wrestle folkstyle (collegiate) in college do they?

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Posted by Dad on 10/4/2022, 11:24 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Yes, freestyle

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Posted by Wondering on 10/18/2022, 4:23 pm, in reply to "Girls classification "

I wonder how they plan on splitting the girls. B A 2A and 3A 4A would be the logical choice and could make it harder to qualify for state if they cut them back to 12 person brackets, which would be a good thing in my opinion.

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Posted by Announced on 10/18/2022, 11:03 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Its already been announced and laid out

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Posted by Wondering on 10/20/2022, 4:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Where do I find that info.

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Posted by Steve Davis on 10/20/2022, 5:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

2 divisions:
4a/3a
2a/1a/b
They haven’t decided the size of brackets yet. They’ll look at number of teams in each for that. 8 girls constitutes a team.

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Posted by Fan on 10/21/2022, 7:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

Is this happening this 2022-2023 season or next season?

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Posted by Steve Davis on 10/21/2022, 11:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Girls classification "

This year

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Posted by Not surprised on 11/13/2022, 12:18 pm, in reply to "Girls classification "

The weight classes will definitely be watered down and their will be a lot of "confident boosters" the next few years. But the teams that were competing for the state title that would have lost will now have a much better shot at being state champs so if that's all a coach is worried about.....JOB WELL DONE 👍

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