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California Coach possibly moving to WA State

Posted by Cali Coach on 10/28/2020, 2:21 pm

Good morning everyone, I am a Head Coach and former College Wrestler from the Central Valley area in California (Bakersfield Ca.) Currently looking to move to Washington with in the next year or so. My goal here is to mainly start a conversation about local Washington wrestling in order to get a better gage of the areas and hot spots of local wrestling. I am CTE Graphic Art and Animation teacher, with 10 years under my belts as a head Coach, my first choice would be the Tacoma area but any info about jobs and programs would be incredibly helpful. Look forward to talking wrestling with you guys.

text: 6613302308 or email: hvyelement@gmail.com

Trump or Biden

Posted by Conservative on 10/28/2020, 2:31 pm, in reply to "California Coach possibly moving to WA State"

__Trump or __Biden

The answer to this question is needed for you to move forward into our community so we can make the correct recomendations.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Cali Coach on 10/28/2020, 3:02 pm, in reply to "Trump or Biden"

I'm not big on discussing politics especially online, but the fact that I'm originally from Oklahoma and I'm looking to leave California and this terrible Governor behind should give everyone a clue. lol

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by BW on 10/28/2020, 5:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

He might be ok. Let em through.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Cali Coach on 10/28/2020, 7:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Thanks for the vote of confidence BW. lol

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Rick on 10/28/2020, 10:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Biden said he was gonna ban wrestling because of Covid! We can't have him in office!!!!

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Big9 on 10/28/2020, 5:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Look into YVTech in Yakima. They have a high school tech school program that serves the entire Yakima Valley and right now the Yakima Valley is easily the hottest place to be for wrestling.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Cali Coach on 10/28/2020, 6:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

thanks for the feedback

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Bad decision maybe on 10/28/2020, 10:10 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

You say you want to leave Cali and the democratic governor?The governor in Wa. is a clone,maybe even more socialist.I would seriously be looking for a job in Idaho or Utah.Maybe wrestling in WA in 2021/22,but even that's not a given.Although I will say the WEA does have a ton of clout and teacher's are very well compensated.Good luck finding a house under 300k, but I guess if you've lived in Cali you are familiar with that?Just my 2 cents.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Jimmy on 10/28/2020, 10:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

This Governor is a saint in these hellish times. PRAISE JESUS

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Rick on 10/28/2020, 10:07 pm, in reply to "Trump or Biden"

The real question is who would win in a wrestling match Trump or Biden?

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Truth on 10/29/2020, 3:22 am, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Cali Coach,

Usually it's great to hear about an incoming coach that could help our sport in WA. Trust me when I say stay away. I hate to bring politics into this but yes, our Governor is quite possibly worse than yours and he's most likely going to win so things here won't get better anytime soon, and I'm a democrat.

The Northwest is beautiful so look at Idaho or Montana. The wrestling is good, cost of living half of Seattle, and they are open for business and life lol.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by other than on 10/29/2020, 4:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

If raising the State's GDP from 17th to 10th nationally, and having the most succesful covid response of any state in the country is bad, then he is the worst.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Economics on 10/29/2020, 5:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

The biggest companies, including Google, Microsoft, Amazon and all the other tech companies in WA are here despite Inslee, not because of him. Big difference. Don't give him credit for something he had no part in accomplishing.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Actually on 10/29/2020, 5:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

All those companies listed along with Boeing have purchased other properties out of WA and will/have move business out of here. Inslee has zero credit for keeping businesses/jobs here. Those are facts, not opinion.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by facts on 10/31/2020, 1:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

The economy has boomed at a rate faster than the rest of the nation while he's been governor. Fact. Another FACT - during that same span Culp has put her shirt on backwards and forgot to brush his teeth at least 345 times. He's literally the dumbest person ever to run for governor in WA for either of two major parties.

Quality and thriving local companies aren't going anywhere. Talented tech workers don't want to move to some dump southern state to save a few tax dollars. Talent acquisition rules in tech, and they can't get talent to move to areas where "science" is curse word. Boeing is an outlier (although they really aren't thriving anyway). They're in trouble due to their massive incompetence. They moved corporate to Chicago and some manufacturing to SC long before Inslee was elected. They're in a race to the bottom on the manufacturing side - and it hasn't worked out as well as they would've hoped. Major quality control issues occurred for many years in their new Southern plants, and they learned the hard way about the difficulty in finding a skilled workforce in a area of the country (deep south) where you can graduate from HS while reading at a 3rd grade level. Toyota had the same problem in Kentucky.

Fact is, the Washington State will be fine. If its too much for you (read in - too expensive, many can't hang in this ultra-competitive environment) please leave, no one will miss you.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by You're an idiot on 10/31/2020, 4:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

This part of the thread mentions nothing about leaving the state. You obviously support Inslee, but don't let that up in his ****. I noted that he is not the reason for the tech boom. It started long before he was governor and will continue regardless of whom gets elected. The PNW is a great place to live and that is why people are here, not because Inslee is the governor.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Inslee lover on 10/31/2020, 4:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

No, I am not an Inslee lover just resent the smarmy tv ads and phony politician that he is.I retired from Boeing actually and bemoan the fact that my grandkids haven't had any wrestling opportunities for over 6 mos and none on the horizon.I'm in agreement with you on Boeing for the most part.Management more concerned with the quick buck and high stock price over a quality product. But like you said Wa. will be fine and Culp isn't the glad handing career politician like Inslee.All he would do is balance things more to the center since Wa.is way too socialist imo.He won't win but despite what you say there are quite a few Washingtonians fed up with his phony act.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Cali Coach on 10/29/2020, 7:37 am, in reply to "Trump or Biden"

What are the top teams around Tacoma area?

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by hmmm on 10/29/2020, 7:46 am, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

There really aren't any "top" teams in/near Tacoma. The schools themselves in that area are not known for being great and it's a high crime area. Do you have a smokin hot babe drawing you there because you should look at a different area IMO.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Cali Coach on 10/29/2020, 7:56 am, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

what areas near or outside Tacoma should I take a look at?

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by A few things on 10/29/2020, 8:11 am, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Are you wanting to be a full time wrestling coach is the first question? For school or work do you need to be in a certain area? Do you have a budget to live within? All questions to consider.

The further north up I-5 you go the more expensive. Olympia (Thurston County) is reasonable. Going a little NE of Tacoma to Orting/Bonney Lake/Enumclaw has great wrestling but modernized farmers country.

Someone mentioned Yakima Valley, and although not my first choice to recommend for living but the wrestling is tops in the state. Spokane is a close second in wrestling and much bigger than Yakima, also close to Idaho so when we get shut down you can drive there for lunch or a hair cut lol.

Are you a country boy, preppy kid, or don't care?

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Wrestling Fan on 10/29/2020, 11:23 am, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Make your way to eastern Washington. That's where the best wrestling in Washington takes place.

4a - Chiawana (Pasco, WA) - 2 titles in a row
3a - Mt. Spokane (Spokane, WA) - 3 titles in a row
2a - Toppenish (Toppenish, WA) - 4 titles in 5 years (2a)
1a - State champ is from the eastside in each of the last 6 years.
B - Tonasket (Tonasket, WA) - 4 titles in a row

Political aspect: Eastside is generally more Republican while the Westside is more Democrat

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Eastside Wrestler on 10/29/2020, 12:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

Yeah Eastside wrestling is where its at. Westside couldn't even wrestle a coffee drinking liberal to the mat.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by West on 10/29/2020, 2:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

In 4A, 6 of the top 10 teams are from the Westside. In 3A, 8 of the top 10 teams are from the Westside.
In 2A, 5 of the top 10 teams are from the Westside.

No one cares about the rest and barely about 2A.

Looks like as a whole, the better wrestling falls on the Westside of the state.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Dave on 10/29/2020, 3:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

look at this snowflake bringing in a few selected "facts" into his argument.. oh sorry should probably say THEIR argument since we cant assume that anymore either. no one cares about west side wrestling get over it and get over yourself.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by east side on 10/29/2020, 4:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

the east side is great at having really good kids move to the same school and creating a powerhouse. overall wrestling is better on the westside.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Wrestling Fan on 10/30/2020, 8:29 am, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

My argument was the best wrestling teams are from the east side of the state. There are a lot of good wrestling teams on the west side, as your argument shows. However, the best teams (state champions) are on the east side.

You can't look at the number of teams because there are far more teams on the west side of the state vs the east side.

The best teams (state champions) are from the east side.

Re: Trump or Biden

Posted by Rick on 10/29/2020, 12:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Trump or Biden"

You should only be looking at the real wrestling spots like Deer Park or Royal. Westside sucks!

Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State

Posted by Welcome to Washington on 10/30/2020, 6:06 pm, in reply to "California Coach possibly moving to WA State"

I've lived on both sides of the state.

If you love hunting, fishing, hiking, snowmobiling, and the suburban to rural life, then the East side is where its at. They have some great wrestling programs, tough kids, and devoted parents.

If you love those things, but want less severe seasons AND don't mind lots of rain, then the Peninsula is worth a look. In many places you are just an hour (drive and ferry ride) from Seattle and professional sports and other Urban activities.

If you enjoy urban to suburban life and lots of options (jobs and hobbies), then the West side is where it is at. There are so many people over here, it wouldn't be hard to find a group to do anything from French cooking to Rugby.

Of course you can go to professional baseball games even if you live on the East side and you can go hunting etc if you live on the West side . . . it's just that you have to drive further and will do it less often.

As for your teaching job, there are lots of opportunities in the Seattle I-5 and I-90 corridors. Obviously there are a ton more job opportunities on the West side . . . and more traffic, taxes, expensive real estate, etc . . .
To maximize job opportunities, you would want to be north of Tacoma on the I-5 corridor on up to Marysville or East of Seattle out to North Bend. Of course there are exceptions like Olympia/Centralia. I'm just talking in big strokes here.

The East Siders had one other thing right . . . per capita, the West Side has many languishing wrestling programs. They would need someone to come in and take the reins. We have good club programs in the West, but then these kids go to their high school practice and nobody (including the coaches) really know how to wrestle. Of course there are notable exceptions whose teams place at State every year, but for everyone of those, there have to be 10 more who think a couple of wrestlers making it to Regionals is a huge deal.

If wrestling is your life, then there are many places in the I-5/I-90 corridors that you could come in and build a Youth - HS program like Chris Feist did in Maple Valley or Tye Michaelson did on the Peninsula. In most places, you would find a non-competitive youth program looking for both coaches and wrestlers and a high school program with many empty varsity weight classes, run by a coach who probably wrestled in high school and might have even been a State Participant. I'm sure the wrestling community (such as it is) would warmly welcome someone with your wrestling background.

If Wrestling is just your favorite hobby, then you might settle in the Bellevue/Issaquah/Kirkland/Redmond (and surrounding) areas where there are many software companies and graphics is a real job. I think those schools would value your non-wrestling skills and you could even make money doing private tutoring (this area has MANY high earning parents).

I wouldn't recommend living in Seattle itself. It is expensive, devoid of real wrestling, and not a good place to raise kids.

Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State

Posted by good description on 10/30/2020, 10:49 pm, in reply to "Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State"

Wow,very well done.Completely accurate and to the point.Impressive,especially for this message board...

Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State

Posted by Dave G on 10/30/2020, 11:08 pm, in reply to "Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State"

I agree. Quite an in depth and interesting analysis.

Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State

Posted by Add this on 10/31/2020, 12:07 pm, in reply to "Re: California Coach possibly moving to WA State"

Great job. But the one reason I still live on the west side is simple, THE WEATHER. It rarely freezes or SNOWS, which I hate both. And in the summer it rarely gets blistering hot like it does on the east side. The down fall is the misty rain, buuut you can still do everything in the mist. The traffic on our side can be a nightmare at times, the east seems pretty mellow. The price of homes is out of control and climbing super fast especially in safe neighborhoods. Tax's are killers in some areas. Schools, some schools on the west are full of trash. Do your homework on the school you choose.

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