I still think you suck but I can see your point... I think Orndorff is the wrong guy to say is the problem...

Here are the problems I see with Washington Wrestling

-There is just a lack of complete wrestling in Washington. Guys are serviceable from their feet but are terrible at top and bottom. All those kids who come out of PA are insane on top.

-The top few guys in each weight are good but you only may match up with them a few times a year.

-The partners you have in your HS room probably aren't that good and some of the clubs don't have the partners to elevate guys to the next level. Their is a ceiling to how good someone can get.

-WIAA implements rules that create "fairness" but ultimately create mediocrity. Like all bureaucratic systems, they are the problem.