The last post was not mine, but i find it very funny that Harvir is critiscing Jin (if Harvir left that post), over my years of playing in the Eihl i have experineced what Harvir can do for a team, yeah he will score some real pretty goals and is one of the best offensive players in the league, but in the end he can singlehandly crush a dressing room, his famous give and go (give me the puck and go to hell is classic) with Jin his skill level may be that of a 5th rounder, but I have first hand seen Jin play on my team and what he does not get credit for in goals and assists he more than makes up for in the things that don't get counted like blocked shots (probally top 3 in the league), great penalty killer, and clears the crease and makes goalies better just for that reason. He constantly plays against the best forwards in the league and his teams are always defensively sound.