I have a 22 month old Setter female Well started in the woods handles the heat, points grouse and woodcock and all other game birds. She can be a potential trial dog or top notch gundog. Grouse ridge Whitestone top side Botton side shadow oak bo. Text my cell 608 698 1661 Mercer WI Dont leave any messages on this site. I have videos and Pictures I can send for all tire kickers. We are all guilty!! BTW I am at work so I might not be able to respond right away!! Have a Blessed Fricken Day!!!