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Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by Karen on December 31, 2023, 12:43 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67854395?at_format=link&at_link_origin=BBCBreaking&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_medium=social&at_campaign_type=owned&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_id=2D60DBC8-A803-11EE-B381-EAF154826ABF&at_link_type=web_link

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by stephen on December 31, 2023, 12:51 pm, in reply to "Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I was just about to post this! A Bit taken aback I Have to say!

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Posted by Linda C on December 31, 2023, 12:53 pm, in reply to "Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

This is certainly a surprise. I wonder what brought this on?? I am happy for her and wish her well in her retirement.

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Posted by Carolyn on December 31, 2023, 1:30 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I think she is bothered by her back problems more than we know. I'm sorry to see her go as have always liked her. Did you notice she is wearing her "Daisy" brooch? She wore that on her wedding gown, too.

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by Hollie24 on December 31, 2023, 1:34 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I suspect Margrethe, like the late Elizabeth, is trying to make the transition from one monarch to the next as easy as possible. Abdicating gives her freedom to smooth things with Joachim and quells all the rumors of trouble in Frederick's marriage. Plus her abdication allows Frederick to ascend in his prime and gives her rest and hopefully peace as her life moves to its close.

I imagine the three sisters will spend a lot of time together.

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Posted by Candace on December 31, 2023, 3:32 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Speaking of rumors in the Frederick/Mary marriage - am I the only one who thinks one reason for this abdication might be seen by the Queen as a way to keep Mary and Frederick together?

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Posted by Linda C on December 31, 2023, 3:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I agree Candace. That’s what I thought immediately.

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Posted by Hollie24 on December 31, 2023, 4:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

No, I thought that might be one of the reasons she's doing this. She's a very different character to Elizabeth II, but she has the same devotion to duty and country. A smooth transition and a united King and Queen seems to be part of what Margrethe wants, as well as time and space to rest and spend her remaining time in peace.

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by Cynthia on December 31, 2023, 5:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Apparently she said a couple of years ago she'd only abdicate if her health warranted it. I wonder if her smoking has finally caught up with her.

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Posted by Hollie24 on December 31, 2023, 5:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I wondered that too. Margrethe can't stand when she receives guests anymore, and she walks bent over. She also seems out of breath too. I wonder if she has COPD but will only use oxygen in private. She doesn't undertake engagements the way she used to either.

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by karenl on December 31, 2023, 7:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I don't believe HM is abdicating due to rumors (brought about by gossip magazines) of marriage trouble in the Crown Prince marriage. Margrethe has had total knee replacement on both knees and that's the reason that she sits at receptions for the last several years.
The spinal surgery she underwent earlier this year was extensive, it lasted nearly eight hours, that's a lot for anyone at her age, I'm only speculating, she may have had a fusion at more that one level plus rod and screw insertions. Again, I'm only speculating. She's had to use a cane since then.
HM may have pondered over the late QE II's last years and then her brother-in-law, Costantine's last years and came to the decision it was time to pass the torch. We saw the preview with the change in titles of Joachim's children and discussed that the move was one that HM would make to take the burden off of the Crown Prince when he became Monarch. She would take the heat.

*Should have been "more than one level"

In regards to Frederik's affair, the one in question angrily denied the story and from the so-called photos published, I didn't see anything incriminating in them. Of course, I could be wrong, right now I don't see jumping to any definite conclusions.

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by JohnW on December 31, 2023, 9:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I agree with everything you've said, Karenl. The gossip about the Crown Princely couple's marriage is just gossip, as far as we know. But CP Mary would be less than human if she were not angered/unsettled/irritated by it.

Having said that, it would have been despicable for The Queen to abdicate as a means of keeping the C Ply couple together (and, therefore, trapping the principals in a relationship which she believed they did not want to maintain). I cannot imagine that she would so ... well, words fail me.

Her decisions about titles born by more junior members of the family suggest that she has been planning for her and her son's future for some time.

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Posted by karenl on December 31, 2023, 11:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Yes, the tabloids have focused on photos of the "chilliness of CP Mary and her glum expressions", well, she is irritated and unsettled by the media. How does a parent explain the media stories to their children? Vincent and Josephine are still fairly young, but it doesn't mean Christian and Isabella cannot be affected by the story.
According to the tabloids, Victoria and Daniel's marriage is "in trouble', Haakon and Mette-Marit's marriage was iffy until MM was diagnosed with pulmonary fibrosis and the media backed off. Then there's Letizia and the palaver put out by her sister's ex-husband, which to me sounds like a revenge move by someone who is upset because he's lost whatever perks he had by being an in-law to a member of the Royal Family. It always kills me that Felipe and Letizia have been married for almost 20 yr. and nothing was said by the brother-i-law.....not a peep....until he's divorced. Now it appears to be sour grapes.

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Posted by karenl on December 31, 2023, 11:59 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Oh, it just hit me..Camilla and daughter Maria Chiara will be doubling down now.

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Posted by John on January 1, 2024, 12:11 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Perhaps, but I think that Laura is still happily married to Harry Lopes.

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Posted by karenl on January 1, 2024, 12:35 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I was referring to Camilla of BTS, her daughter and Christian of Denmark were rumored to be a serious couple this past late summer and fall. The story continued for about 3 weeks before Maria Chiara got around to denying the story.

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Posted by Hollie24 on January 1, 2024, 1:03 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Let's get back to Margrethe please. Thanks.

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Posted by JohnW on January 1, 2024, 3:39 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Sorry, Karenl, or as young people say (annoyingly), "my bad". I didn't read your message through and thought you referred to Camilla Major rather than to Camilla Minor. But, as we have been enjoined, back to my favourite Queen.

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by Carolyn on January 1, 2024, 6:17 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

One of my favorite photos of Queen Margarette was taken when she was on a trip to a dig in a desert somewhere. She was resting on a rock dressed in blouse, tan slacks, sneakers and wearing bright red nail polish.

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Posted by JohnW on January 1, 2024, 6:55 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Although very different in style from the Princess Royal, both The Queen and the Princess seem to me to be effortlessly stylish in ways that transcend fashion.

As you say, Caroline, "blouse, tan slacks, sneakers and wearing bright red nail polish". What's not to like? Oh, and she's beautiful and 10 feet tall!

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Posted by Martha on January 1, 2024, 7:26 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I think it was a combination of her health beginning to seriously decline and Christian turning 18 and being old enough to start royal duties.

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Posted by Carolyn on January 1, 2024, 10:10 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Hollie, that was one of my first thoughts. I think the three sisters have always been close and now they can spend good times together rocking side-by-side.

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Posted by Linda C on January 1, 2024, 11:51 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

What a great picture that conjures up. The three of them enjoying life together with no drama and just living their best lives during their golden years.

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Posted by susieQ on January 1, 2024, 12:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

The notion of the three sisters reminds me of the widowed sisters Queen Alexandra and her sister Maria Feodorvna (born Dagmar of Denmark) and their home in Denmark, the country of their birth. I don't think it was their full-time home but didn't they maintain a retreat there that was important to them both?

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Posted by Candace on January 1, 2024, 1:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Yes, Hvidøre House on the coast of Denmark. Alexandra and the Empress used it as a retreat for part of the year. It was sold in 1930 by Dagmar's daughters.

Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by Nellie on January 1, 2024, 4:46 pm, in reply to "Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

I have read that Margrethe will continue to be "Her Majesty".
Link https://www-stm-dk.translate.goog/presse/pressemeddelelser/hendes-majestaet-dronningen-abdicerer/?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

That seems the better way for Daisy Denmark to retire in contrast to her good friend Trixie Holland.

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Posted by Martha on January 1, 2024, 5:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Trixie will always be Queen Bea to me.

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Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV

Posted by karenl on January 1, 2024, 6:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

Me too. In addition to spending more time with her sisters, Margrethe now has more time for her art and design projects.

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Posted by stephen on January 1, 2024, 8:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

And her Grandchildren!!!!!

Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue

Posted by karenl on January 2, 2024, 12:55 am, in reply to "Re: Queen of Denmark Margarethe II announces abdication live on TV"

The first official photo of Margrethe in the black gown and side profile is my all time favorite, she's stunning in that photo.
I forgot about her iconic raincoat and rain hat, I love it, it's not your mother's raincoat.

https://www.vogue.com/article/queen-margrethe-denmark-abdication-style

Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue

Posted by Carolyn on January 2, 2024, 12:38 pm, in reply to "Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue"

Great article. Wonderful photos.

Joachim Refused Comment Concerning The Queen's Abdication

Posted by karenl on January 4, 2024, 12:33 am, in reply to "Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue"

Joachim and Marie were smiling at the New Year's reception, but in a couple of photos, the smiles were strained.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12918695/denmark-prince-joachim-no-comment-mother-queen-margrethe-abdication.html

Re: Joachim Refused Comment Concerning The Queen's Abdication

Posted by Martha on January 4, 2024, 10:10 am, in reply to "Joachim Refused Comment Concerning The Queen's Abdication"

Joachim could have issued a statement commending and supporting his brother but he chose to stay silent. Was that a passive-aggressive swipe at Frederik, or was it an indirect swing at Margrethe? He and Marie seemed happy at the gala so he could just be fed up with the press. He may have been ignoring a shouted question about Frederik’s night out in Madrid.

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Re: Joachim Refused Comment Concerning The Queen's Abdication

Posted by stephen on January 4, 2024, 3:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Joachim Refused Comment Concerning The Queen's Abdication"

It is probably nothing.

Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue

Posted by Carolyn on January 9, 2024, 8:51 am, in reply to "Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue"

O/T: I love Queen Margarethe's daisy pin that she wore on her wedding gown and wears often. Do you know where I could buy one that is like it? Not with real jewels, of course, but costume.

Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue

Posted by Martha on January 9, 2024, 2:51 pm, in reply to "Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue"

I would think you can search online until you find one either just like it, or very similar. Did you try Etsy?

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Posted by karenl on January 9, 2024, 7:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue"

I typed "marguerite daisy brooch" and it takes you to several sites including Etsy. The brooches come in a ton of styles and prices for you to choose from.

Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue

Posted by Carolyn on January 11, 2024, 9:44 am, in reply to "Re: Tribute To Queen Margrethe In Vogue"

Thanks, Karen. I didn't use those words in searching and kept getting referred to the Danish Royal site. I'll check it out this morning.

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