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'Are scores being settled?'

Posted by Susan T on March 24, 2023, 7:25 pm

The late Queen's right-hand woman, Angela Kelly, has been recognised by the King in a special honours awards marking the former monarch's death.

But there was surprise in royal circles that the straight-talking Liverpudlian, who was so close to Queen Elizabeth that she wore in her shoes and was given the title of Personal Assistant, Adviser and Curator to Her Majesty, did not get a top honour.

Miss Kelly was among many of the Queen's closest and longest-serving aides who were recognised in a 'Demise' honours list. So too were hundreds of people who played an important role during her funeral.

They include members of the RAF flight crew who brought her coffin down to London from Scotland, as well as military coffin bearers and those who organised her state funeral.

Instead of being made a DCVO – Dame Commander of the Royal Victorian Order (RVO) – like the Queen's long-serving diary secretary, Helen Cross, Miss Kelly has been upgraded only to a CVO, or Commander.

Link: Daily Mail

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Posted by Hollie24 on March 24, 2023, 8:48 pm, in reply to "'Are scores being settled?' "

Has Charles kicked her out of her grace and favour home yet?

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Posted by karenl on March 25, 2023, 12:01 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

As far I know Angela is still in her grace and favor.

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Posted by Susan T on March 25, 2023, 2:40 pm, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

But not for long?

Angela Kelly, the Queen's dresser and confidante for more than 20 years, fears she may have to leave her grace-and-favour home, The Mail on Sunday understands.

Friends of Ms Kelly, a Liverpool docker's daughter who became the Queen's right-hand woman, worry she is another victim of the King's 'property merry-go-round'.

It had been understood that Ms Kelly, 65, would be given accommodation for life after her decades of loyalty to the late Queen.

Angela Kelly, the Queen's dresser and confidante for more than 20 years, fears she may have to leave her grace-and-favour home, The Mail on Sunday understands.

Friends of Ms Kelly, a Liverpool docker's daughter who became the Queen's right-hand woman, worry she is another victim of the King's 'property merry-go-round'.

It had been understood that Ms Kelly, 65, would be given accommodation for life after her decades of loyalty to the late Queen.

Link: Daily Mail

Re: 'Are scores being settled?'

Posted by Hollie24 on March 25, 2023, 6:49 pm, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

Charles had no problem turfing out Andrew, so kicking out Kelly comes as no surprise.

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Posted by karenl on March 26, 2023, 12:31 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

It wouldn't surprise me either. Reminds me of the death of Queen Victoria. King Edward VII couldn't oust John Brown fast enough nor her Indian aide.
The Queen, up to her last day, didn't suffer fools gladly and she was, I believe, a keen judge of character. HM and Angela Kelly clicked from day one. If HM had caught onto something not kosher with Angela, she would have not kept Angela on for very long. I think that envy/jealousy among the Queen's staff may be the root and I'm sorry to say, Ms. Kelly was put down due to her upbringing and not belonging to the aristocracy.
I can see Charles being swayed by the late Queen's staff or he may have not liked her himself.

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Posted by Hollie24 on March 26, 2023, 1:23 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

John Brown died before Queen Victoria. After her death, Edward VII got rid of many of his mother's monuments to her late servant and his sister Beatrice destroyed much of their mother's diary entries and correspondence regarding Brown. The Munshi was allowed to keep the property he'd purchased in the UK, but he went/was sent back to India after the Queen's death and Edward VII had his mother's letters to him destroyed and no pension was paid to him (thanks, Wikipedia, for this bit).

I don't think Charles feels bound by his mother's wishes. I think he's just going to do what he wants.

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Posted by Cynthia on March 26, 2023, 5:45 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

Is Andrew actually moved out? I thought it was still speculation.

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Posted by Karen on March 26, 2023, 6:02 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

There is no reports that the Duke of York has moved out of Royal Lodge. It is just speculation.

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Posted by Karen on March 25, 2023, 7:48 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

It's been states that she has been allowed to keep living in her Windsor grace-and-favour home due to the late Queen. The Queen did something to allow or made it clear that Angela was to be allowed to stay in the Windsor house.

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Posted by Cynthia on March 25, 2023, 10:45 am, in reply to "'Are scores being settled?' "

Margaret Bobo MacDonald was only ever a lieutenant of the RVO --and she'd been with the queen since birth, practically. I don't see why Angela Kelly should move to the top of the heap in the RVO.

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Posted by Susan T on March 25, 2023, 11:27 am, in reply to "Re: 'Are scores being settled?' "

Angela Kelly has a Wikipedia page which lists her honors. she received the next "upgrade" of the RVO, which I believe is standard operating procedure.

Unfortunately, none of the other women mentioned in the article have Wikipedia pages, so it's impossible to quickly determine whether they, too, received the standard "upgrade" or whether they skipped a level or two and were sent straight to the top.

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