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Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by karenl on December 21, 2020, 6:56 pm

I'm not completely up on the UK's recent rules. In my state, the number designated applies to adults and children aren't counted plus the two families were outside. Where I live if you're going for a walk or run outside, you can wear a mask or opt not to. My neighbor and I have been walking/running outside nearly everyday since March and we stay 10-18 ft. apart and don't wear masks.
The people complaining about the Royals should have seen people leaving Mass this weekend, we wear masks, but social distancing left a long time ago, Catholics always have to leave Mass in a hurry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9077177/William-Kate-mingle-Edward-Sophies-family-group-nine.html

Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Martha on December 21, 2020, 11:53 pm, in reply to "Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

My church has been holding Mass in the church parking lot. No sharing of parking stalls, mind you. The Mass has been live streamed and our church has a You Tube channel, so there's no slacking. Since there's no coffee and donuts after Mass there's no reason to stay. But when things open up and the lumpia ladies are back in action in the church kitchen you won't be able to clear us out for the next Mass.

If the Wessex and Cambridge families have tested negative for the virus and everyone is feeling well, there's no reason they can't get together carefully. Six people? That's nothing for most families, especially since many of us have bonus family members we've picked up along the years.

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Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Sternchen on December 22, 2020, 6:49 am, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

The rules for them might differ, as they also have their PPO's always around them and thus the Cambridges can't even follow the six person rule, when out as a family.

Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Jessie on December 22, 2020, 1:15 pm, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

While they should not break the rules, this event was on HM's Sandringham estate. Perhaps as it is a family member's estate they felt it was ok to attend and group up after they arrived.

Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Martha on December 22, 2020, 7:18 pm, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

Everyone was outside and they wore masks while distancing. This is the opposite of flouting the rules.

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Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Susan T on December 22, 2020, 8:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

Tier 2 rule:

You can meet in a group of up to six outside - including in a private garden, or a public place

It all revolves around whether they are considered to have "met".

The group of 6 rule also applies to tier 3 locations. And a day hasn't gone by without the media showing photos of large groups of people (women usually scantily clad) congregating outside of a pub, not wearing masks, standing much closer together.

Presumably nobody gets all fussed and bothered about dozens of maskless people crowded together closer than the Cambridges and Wessexes were because there was no agreement to "meet".

Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by karenl on December 22, 2020, 11:58 pm, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

Exactly, William was quite ill with Covid, he's aware of the rules and he's not going to purposely flaunt the rules, he isn't that callous or stupid. Edward, Sophie and Catherine are the same.
The tabloids featured pubs full of unmasked people and commented, but didn't seem to make the huge deal that they're now trumpeting over the Royals.

OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by karenl on December 23, 2020, 12:03 am, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

"Scotland's first minister has apologised for breaching Covid rules by taking her face mask off at a wake.

The Scottish Sun has published a photograph of Nicola Sturgeon standing talking to three people at a social distance, but with her face uncovered.

She was attending a wake after the funeral of a Scottish government civil servant who died with Covid.

Ms Sturgeon had been wearing a tartan mask and is said to have taken it off briefly as she was leaving the venue.

The Scottish government's Covid regulations say that customers in hospitality venues must wear a face covering except when seated - including when they are entering, exiting and moving around. "

The First Minister was one of the officials critical of the Cambridges train tour, stating it was breaching Covid travel rules.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-55419564

Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by Hollie24 on December 23, 2020, 11:15 am, in reply to "OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

Oh, how the mighty fall!

Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by Karen on December 23, 2020, 11:54 am, in reply to "Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

She apologised today in the Scottish Parliament. Police Scotland have decided not to fine her. The First Minister is also furious with herself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55419564

Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by Martha on December 23, 2020, 11:58 am, in reply to "Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

If they aren't going to fine her then they have to waive fines for everyone else.

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Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by Karen on December 23, 2020, 1:57 pm, in reply to "Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

Each case is considered on it's own merits. In this case Police Scotland Police Scotland decided they would not be taking any action, saying the first minister had apologised and "acknowledged this inadvertent breach" of the regulations.

The First Minister removed her face mask briefly to talk to people at a funeral wake. It was a minor breach of the rules. Just because she is First Minister doesn't mean that we should all come down on her like a ton of bricks. She has held up her hands and admitted she has made a mistake. You can be sure with Ms Sturgeon that it won't happen again.

Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by Arlene on December 23, 2020, 2:03 pm, in reply to "Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

Perhaps she could apologize for criticizing the Cambridges for their train tour.

Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by Hollie24 on December 23, 2020, 2:59 pm, in reply to "Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

Yep. But she won't.

Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules

Posted by karenl on December 23, 2020, 6:29 pm, in reply to "Re: OT: Scottish First Minister Caught Breaching Covid Rules"

What the First Minister could have done besides apologize is set an example by paying the fine despite the waiver. Two of our District Court judges were caught chatting inside the Courthouse, less than a foot apart, no masks. Both apologized and paid their fines despite waivers, they said they're not above the law and not be treated as such. These judges got a lot of respect from the public...our Governor on the other hand....

Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Hollie24 on December 23, 2020, 11:14 am, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

It those photos, it looks lie they're all still maintainng a bit of distance from each other. And they are outside.

I'm torn. I'm a strong supporter of wearing a mask and following all the social-distancing rules and so on, but they were all very loosely grouped and it was just a chance thing.

Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six"

Posted by Martha on December 23, 2020, 11:56 am, in reply to "Re: Cambridges And Wessexes Accused Of Breaking Govt. "Rule Of Six""

They're showing that it's possible to observe the recommended cautions and still go out. This is nowhere near the half-dressed crowds pressing against each other in bars. Much ado.

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