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New STGMO regime

Posted by Gatekeeper on September 20, 2009, 9:16 am

I have a question! Is there anyone I could talk to in STGMO to check the status of an attachment "A" that was submitted on this thug to confirm him as a BA. In my opinion there was more than enough evidence presented and it has been right at a month since it was submitted. It has never taken this long before.

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Re: New STGMO regime

Posted by ASB on September 22, 2009, 9:57 pm, in reply to "New STGMO regime"

If you are an STG officer, then you should consult with your Regional Coordinator about policy and procedures. They are your next chain of command. This Board is not. They are there to help and train you on policy and procedures. There have been many changes that you should already be aware of. If you are not an STG Officer, then you need to contact your unit STG Officer so that they can check on it. Just because "you" think an attachment is worthy of a seal of approval, doesn't mean that it is. I have seen many that on the surface look pretty good, but turn out to be fabricated and manipulated by an offender wanting to get locked up in Ad-Seg. If you did your investigation and paperwork correctly...then your attachment will be processed accordingly. People are quick to talk trash about things and people that they don't know anything about.

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Posted by PURO_STG on September 22, 2009, 9:29 pm, in reply to "New STGMO regime"

SI'mon ya sabes that you have a STGC to follow up on matters like that..keep in mind of all the bull thats going on state wide ...riots and such..

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Posted by Maryanne Denner on September 23, 2009, 10:11 am, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"
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Everyone knows the chain of command..but sometimes links in that chain get broken.

My question is why you all act like homeboy put some really personal business out in the streets? You are missing the point..it should not take a month for an Att A to be taken care at the final level or even at the regional level. If it takes that long then someone doesn't know what to look for or they don't know what they are looking at.

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Posted by Carascolendas on September 21, 2009, 3:26 am, in reply to "New STGMO regime"

Oye, are you stupid or what ese?!

Are you seriously a gang officer? Let me guess --you're a new breed, eh? Sabes que homes, dudes like you are an embarrassment to the gang office.

If you don't have the balls to pick up the phone and discuss inside business with your fellow gang officers, then don't come to a public forum to do it.

Your chafa ass Attachment 'A' was probably as weak as your ability to generate a competent validation packet. That's probably why you haven't heard anything yet, pendejo!

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Posted by Gatekeeper on September 22, 2009, 9:11 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"

Thats funny they came through and confirmed him today!

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Posted by ASB on September 26, 2009, 11:06 am, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"

I hope that you are not insinuating that the Attach came thru because you posted your question in this forum? Maryanne does not influence decisions of that nature. I doubt that is the reason. Next time, just communicate with your chain of command for an answer. Make a phone call to find out where it is at.

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Posted by Gatekeeper on September 27, 2009, 9:21 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"

I am not and was not insinuating anything like that. All I was giving was a status report. This has become a ridiculous string of responses. All I was doing was blowing off steam because I knew this thug needed to be locked up. I did not and would not give any freaking secrets that would jeopardize the job. You f*#ck'n people need to get over yourselves and quit wearing your feelings on your sleeves and GO TO WORK!!! None of you have been participating in this portion of the board since she was generous enough to put it up. So do not bother now if all you are going to do now is b###h about a stupid generic question!

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Posted by Maryanne Denner on September 26, 2009, 1:18 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"
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I simply can not understand why the uproar over this person talking about an Attach A. It is so trivial. Good Lord it isn't like he aired some deep dark secrets.

Relax!!! This is not what the board is about and however some just keep beating a dead horse.

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Posted by Maryanne Denner on September 21, 2009, 10:43 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"
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I tend to disagree to a point...sometimes going public gets people off their butts. My question is," why is it taking a month to get a response to an Att A"? There should be no excuse, the region obviously agreed with it so the hold up is elsewhere.

Carascolendas if you got a problem somewhere you want it dealt with and sometimes that is by any means necessary. Not all of us can be as smart as you ese...

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Posted by Carascolendas on September 25, 2009, 1:18 am, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"

Your argument of resorting to any means necessary to deal with an issue concerning an Attachment 'A' is utterly unsound. This dude generated a validation packet and submitted it. If he has questions, then let him ask people within his circle and follow his chain of command -- period.

Maryanne, I don't care how you attempt to sustain it, there is no reason why this dude should be coming to a public forum to have questions concerning gang business answered. End of story.

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Posted by Maryanne Denner on September 25, 2009, 8:39 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"
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Part of my point is the person was not airing dirty laundry. That is no secret and really I don't think anyone gives a rats tail about it. His viewpoint isn't changing anything he just aired his point. Secondly neither one of us knows the whole story..what if he had done the chain of command and nothing happened. I am not saying he is right or wrong but I can not see what the big deal about him putting that on site is about.

I am sure there are bigger issues out there than this and some of those I have not posted but talked on personal level with the poster about them.

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Posted by ASB on September 26, 2009, 11:32 am, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"

Maybe he does not mean to air dirty laundry and just needs a little guidance. It is no secret that you have a bone to pick with STGMO and/or the State. You have made that clear to others. It might appear to others in some of your answers that you will seek any avenue to air a less than positive picture of STGMO and/or the State. Just like when you asked for the Smith Unit Riot footage and said they would be compensated. How unethical is that?( Appears that you didn't get a bite on that) or when you appear as an "expert" on all those "Gangland" series...then criticize their work? I know that not all of our STGO's are perfect, but most would agree, that they are held to a higher standard, because of the information that they are entrusted with. They should exemplify the "cream of the crop"....most do. I chose to write a post because I don't like the fact that you advocate STG staff to put out information that is supposed to be "confidential", information that should not be put out there for all gang members to see. Why make it easier for them? I don't believe that your agenda is to "help" other STGO's out there. There are other ways to do the "right thing"....

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Posted by TJDO on September 27, 2009, 5:21 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"
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I asked for the Smith unit riot tape as well. Got a problem with that?

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Posted by Maryanne Denner on September 26, 2009, 1:36 pm, in reply to "Re: New STGMO regime"
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Since you started to open the box I will open it the entire way and then close it.

First of all it is not unethical to ask for the tape and compensate for it. Anything that you have and is your the compnay will compensate you for its use

Second of all I have nothing against the state or the STGMO. No axes to grind no ill feelings not at all, for what? I won my case and have moved on.I don't think I have bad mouth the agency at all...should I have? Since I do not work for the agency I can say what I want and when I want with no fear of repurcussions. It ain't my fault that there there are no more gang people who remember some of the past history within the agency.

this site doesn't put out any more information that other gang sites...obviously you do not peruse the web or you would know what I am talking about. Have you seen some of these gang members facebook pages? Didn't think so. That is problem with the many now whether it is law enforcement or STG not everything is confidential. These groups know alot more that we give them credit for and they know more of what is going on the unit than the warden in some cases. How do you know that some you have shared "confidential" gang info with are not affiliated or have run and told all you said? You don't do you?

Lastly: I advocate that people know and learn about gangs and how they work. it isn't about how many Attach A's you submit it is how you manage gangs, how you monitor them, knowing who they are and understanding them..bottom line. So get off my tip and get to work, you have a gang problem not a Ms. Denner problem.

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