Posted by Sterling on 23/9/2010, 23:29:44, in reply to "Re: Invisible Man"
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Correction to previous post.
Oklahoma was not the only state that had de jure segregation that was not part of the Confederacy. It is the only state that was not one of the fifteen slave states that had de jure segregation. Only eleven states were in the Confederacy. The other four slave states were Kentucky, Missouri, Maryland, and Delaware. They also had mandatory segregation. Oklahoma, though, was special. It was supposed to be Indian Territory at the time of the Civil War. It had no history of slavery. It did not even become a state until 1907.
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: I've had some thoughts on Invisible Man that I'd like
: to share:
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: 1. Ellison was not raised in the American South. He
: was raised in Oklahoma. At first I thought that meant
: that he had been raised in a less racist environment
: than the Deep South. I then discovered the surprising
: (to me) fact that Oklahoma was the only state that was
: not part of the Confederacy (aside from the special
: case of West Virginia) that mandated de jure
: segregation. Many states had ad hoc de facto
: segregation. It could be argued that it still exists.
: But only Oklahoma outside the Deep South had
: mandatory legal segregation. I had assumed that the
: first chapter, the battle royal, takes place in
: someplace like my adopted Alabama or perhaps
: Mississippi, but apparently it could have happened in
: segregated Oklahoma.
:
: Maybe it could have happened anywhere in these United
: States.
:
: 2. I have not found much about Ellison's early life.
: He was named for Ralph Waldo Emerson. Maybe I'm
: reading too much into a name, but such regard for the
: Great American Transcendentalist implies to me a
: higher than average level of culture in the Ellison
: home. The Wikipedia claims that Ralph's father, who
: died when he was three, hoped that his son would be a
: poet.
:
: 3. It is ironic that I wrote my first note at about
: the halfway point in the novel. Following the
: midpoint, it immediately goes downhill. The mad,
: nightmarish, absurd, alienated/existentialist
: surrealism drains out of the novel when the narrator
: joins the Brotherhood (obviously the Communist Party).
: It becomes a moderately interesting, rather
: commonplace and pedestrian story until he leaves/is
: thrown out (oh, that glass eye!). It then picks up
: again with the episode with poor Sybil and the
: climactic race riot (the battle royal on a grand
: scale).
:
: 4. At first, I had trouble identifying the period of
: the novel. Eventually, I determined that it takes
: place in the early 1930s, which makes the narrator
: approximately the same age as Ellison. (The most
: telling tip-off is the existence of a
: "Hooverville.") The race riot appears to be
: modeled on the Harlem Riot of 1935. Like the riot in
: Invisible Man , it was not a riot between black and
: white, but a riot in which the greatest damage was to
: property, looting was widespread, and the most violent
: confrontations were with the police.
:
: I had no idea that Black Panther-style Afrocentrism
: existed in the 1930s. I thought it was purely a 1960s
: phenomenon. I found that there were also eerily
: similar parallels in the relationship between the
: Communists and the Afrocentrists in the novel and the
: relationship between the SDS-New Left and the Black
: Nationalists in the 1960s. In a very minor way, I was
: a participant in the Sixties unrest. I have no idea
: if the New Left exploited the Black Nationalists the
: way Ellison portrays the Communists exploiting the
: Afrocentrists. I do know that students like me
: participated in demonstrations that erupted into riots
: beside the Panther types. I was aware at the time
: that we anti-Vietnam protestors had different visions
: and goals than the black participants.
:
: 5. One problem in reading on the Kindle is that one
: has no idea of page numbers. I stopped by the local
: Barnes & Noble and discovered that 30 or so pages
: is about to the end of the first chapter (the battle
: royal). This is the most conventional depiction of
: brutal racism in the novel. While I found it shocking
: and memorable, it also exemplifies the social protest
: spirit that I imagined would characterize the whole
: novel. The result would have been something much less
: interesting then the book that Ellison actually wrote.
:
: Lale, I know that you are a very busy person, but I
: wish to recommend to you that you read the next two
: chapters, especially chapter three at the Golden Day.
: I think that these chapters are stunning and artful
: and well worth your time. Believe me, the novel does
: not go where you think it will.
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: --Previous Message--
: I started it and, after 30 or so pages, I decided that
: I
: didn't want to go on.
:
: I understand the concept of "invisibility."
: It happens to people in wheelchair, for instance, most
: people avoid making eye-contact with someone in a
: wheelchair (sometimes it happens not because of any
: discriminatory feelings but simply due to extreme care
: not to stare, regardless, it makes the person in
: wheelchair feel invisible.)
:
: I couldn't read the book because it the style didn't
: engage me. I found my mind wandering off.
:
: Instead I read and Ottawa author's latest book:
: Elizabeth Hay's Late Nights on Air. I enjoyed it very
: much. Elizabeth Hay will be our guest speaker at an
: event we organize as Canadian and Turkish Women's
: Association on November the 8th. You are all invited.
: Free for members, $5 for non-members
:
: Lale
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