Posted by Searcher on 9/14/2009, 9:29 am, in reply to "The grammer of the Lord's Prayer"
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Ray,
Jesus told His disciples "pray in like manner"...This prayer had a particular meaning at that time and will in the future when Israel's prophetic time clock begins again. The kingdom on earth is now in abeyance because His own received Him NOT, neither did they repent. They rejected the offer of their King and the kingdom.
Jesus was addressing His disciples, not any assembly today. Luke 11:5-110 is a parable comparing asking a friend for help with asking God for help. The word your Bible translated "persistence" is actually the Greek word anaideia which means "shamelessness or impudence". It has nothing to do with repetition of a prayer.
The verses that follow in fact say the opposite of what you profess. He did NOT say, ask over and over again in a repeated vain prayer and you shall receive. He said very clearly,, "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you."
Ask once and it shall be given. As far as the tribulation prayer in Luke 11:2-4, Jesus is speaking to a group of His disciples. It was appropriate for Him to say, "When ye pray, say, Our Father..."
Deuteronomy 8:3
And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knowest not, neither did thy fathers know: THAT HE MIGHT MAKE THEE KNOW THAT MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD DOTH MAN LIVE.
Searcher
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