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Re: If we can put a man on the moon there must be a cure for hikui

Posted by Dale Gingerich (DaleRG) on 3/6/2008, 11:10 pm, in reply to "If we can put a man on the moon there must be a cure for hikui"
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Lee asked by post this here, I thank him for the invite to do so. I have read here often, and have not joined until now. I do want to preface this by saying also that I do not claim this, I merely compiled a few treatments into one, from reading here on NI and from a few other koi related sites on the internet. First someone doing extensive research on this topic is: Dr. Nicholas Saint-Erne PetSmart Veterinary Hospitals 2419 E. Tropicana Las Vegas, NV 89121 Phone : (702) 458-6880 A vet whom I and others have had the privilege of hearing speak on this topic at the AKCA seminar in Phoenix last year. a brief outline of his seminar is included. -------begin quote-------------------- Dr. Nick Saint-Erne DVM gave a great talk on the study of Hikkui, which is a disease that affects the red pigment in certain koi. He has been studying some fish for several years and has ruled out certain causes. Recent studies indicate that it may be linked to a herpes type virus. Several great questions were asked regarding whether it affected Japanese Koi only, Doitsu koi or whether Hikkui was some type of autoimmune deficiency. Nick didn’t provide handouts from his presentation, so hopefully he will have them available at a future date. It appears that once a koi had Hikkui, it will reappear (like carp pox). --------------end quote------------------- Our koi in question is a Momotaro, Sanke, now approximately 7 to 8 yrs old. Originally kept in a very well filtered, ozone treated pond, then moved to our average treated, shallow pond. At the urgings of a rather well-known, often quoted koi judge, I followed up, studied up, read up and eventually utilized the below listed treatment protocol. There are few steps involved to the treatment. 1.) Sedate the koi 2.) Using salt and water, debride the area in question (regular table salt mixed with a little water), with a brush. 3.) Then mix 1:1:1 (in equal parts), these 3 ingredients: a) Dry Bio-BandAid b) Bee propolus. c) Natural aloe (make sure is it natural, should not contain alcohol, but pure) 4.) Then with this paste it is applied liberally to the area in question, should be gooey and thick like paste. 5.) Revive and return koi 6.) Check in another week to see if another treatment is required and a week later I did a full treatment again, with the debridement and sauve mixture. 7. The next week i did not do the debridement, just applied the sauve. I have kept a full photo journal of everything that was done, and all the photos are contained on my web site at http://thegingerichs.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=3448 or here Hikkui Treatment hope this helps, and again this is a combination of treatments that I had found on the web. The results we achieved were quite good, although not good enough to show the koi, as any astute koi judge would be able to tell. Yours Respectfully, Dale Gingerich

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