I find it humorous that whenever there's an annoucnement, or the season turns a bit bumpy, new random names pop up on this board all sharing the same theme, like an incoming shit storm. This board embraces misery and cannot take any change, even if it's change for the better. Whether it's the same people coming out from under rocks to share their crap sandwich, or one person with multiple aliases.
Reminds me of Vegas. Everyone there was in good spirits and enjoyed the tournament and the promise and future of USF basketball. It was good time and a rally point. Then I saw the message board and it was filled with the usual despair. Nothing resembling the WCC tourney or the people in attendance.
In short (I know, too late), yes I really liked this San Francisco logo:
I did not care for this cartoonish logo:
I do like the Primary 2 logo as their Primary version:
I really really like the new crest.
Especially since USF is doing a total re-brand. Using it, selling it, promoting it, locally and nationally. If victories follow (key element), hopefully one day people will instantly recognize the new-born USF logo along the likes of nationally famed ones:
Sidwell in his interview is spot on:
And partnering with Nike is part of the big picture:
I am waiting for "change for the better". Mens basketball recent record and reputation? Not so good. 5 or 6 eligible players leaving the team? Not so good. Concessions, tickets sales, and event tables moved out of WMG lobby so that lobby is empty? Not so good. Advance hype about a "big moment" which turns out to be a logo that looks like the name of the school has been changed to San Francisco University? Not so good. I like the students to sit upstairs, where they always sat. I like Bob Gaillard or Jim Brovelli as coach (no grandstanding from these two guys). I like Hogan as AD.I like WMG lobby to have a hot dog and a shirt and a ticket for sale. Sometimes change is good. Sometimes it's not.
I appreciate the fact that there is not a lot of food stands, clothing stores, etc. blocking the view of those national championship trophies. I even like the fact that only national championships are on display.
Could not disagree with you any more Section G, repectfully of course. Reputation and record of the team not so good? 20 win season and players actually expected ( and going ) to class. 5 to 6 players leaving the team, not so good. While I agree players leaving a program is not always a good thing, In this case, 5 of the 6 can and will be easily replaced by newer and more talented players, only Blackwell's loss will be difficult to replace. On a whole I like this teams makeup much better. At least 4 of the players who chose to leave would not have seen much if any time. Your complaint about the entry is a matter of taste, I'll leave it at that. As for the logo, it is a simple one, but I sort of like it. I love what the AD and the coach are doing on the Hilltop. I would Like to see one entire side of the lower seats deticated to the students. Come to think of it, I don't agree with any of your opinions!
Cresco you are always going on about Towson State. The new logo means USF is changing its name to San Francisco University. Or someone on the design team is from Baltimore, still bitter about losing the Colts, and to spite Indianapolis he made a horse shoe part of the Dons new logo.
I agree with you Spot...putting the students entirely upstairs is foolish. They have shown growing support over the past two seasons, no reason to ever stunt that growth...promote it! If you don't think our team gets a huge advantage when they are rocking and packed in the lower level....oiiiiii!
The reality of the media today is that what you want for a logo is something that fits in the little box to the left of the name of the school on ESPN when they run through scores of the the day. So you want something simple but recognizable. The old logo was too busy for that; the new logo fits the ESPN requirements, like it or not. The new logo succeeds and the media pros that developed that knew that much better than some old farts on this board that think we are still in the newspaper/magazine age.
On the other front, high numbers of tranfers and rapid and aggressive replacement by new blood is the way it is now.Thank God Rex understands the new normal. Wishing for Bob Gaillard (God bless him) to re-appear in his bell bottoms and Saturday Night Fever outfits doesn't cut it anymore.
The point of the logo is not whether you like it or not; it is about whether it is quickly recognizable in the ADHD age of communication.
And finally, the new layout of the WMG lobby clearly says that "you have entered a basketball shrine" and not a t-shirt-hot dog emporium.
Other than Blackwell (and taking the statement that Mikey has a very ill mother at face value, similar to Parker), I was not disappointed by the high number of transfers. The days of the old four year, no cut "rides" are long gone. It is routine to recruit over plays in the last four or five places on the depth chart. Scouting high school athletes is an inexact are some players look great in hs, not so in college.
The situation with Jessie Evans was a continual embarrassment. He did NOT coach and he had no control over the players.
WMG downstairs was almost sold out completely last year.
You already know the reasons for the players leaving. Don't try to imply anything else.
Gaillard should NEVER be mentioned in the same sentence as Jim Brovelli, whose reputation was beyond reproach.
I liked Hogan's wife and daughter. He treated them with respect. However, he did not extend that to many of us alumnae. Also, the wives of some alumni detested him for his chauvinistic behavior towards them.
Those were not the good old days.
Are you actually an alumnus of USF or are you just pretending to me? You are so pessimistic.
St. Francis said accept the things you cannot change, change is harder for some than others. A positive attitude helps everyone to move forward. Mother always said you can please some of the people some of the time but never all of the people all of the time. Anything artistic is very personal. More important, to be respectful of each other even if we differ in opinions......GO DONS!!!
During those times we were NOT a world class athletics operation, trust me...I was very much involved and a part of that time..and it was a joke at times. If you want this program to move in the right direction, this type of stuff has to go down. Do I love the new logo? Eh, some parts of it...but it is a step in the right direction. Please don't compare Hogan to Sidwell. While Bill is a great guy, he doesn't hold a candle.
ABQ, I read Section G's comment and I responded quickly. Then, I read yours. Your analysis was brilliant. But then, that is precisely what I have learned to expect and appreciate about you since our days at USF.
If everyone remembers from last season... the front entrance area of WMG was a huge hit with the tv's so fans could go out during halftime and after the game to chat and catch up with football, other WCC,etc games going on! I personally love the open feel of it along with the trophy displays,etc. And we still had the nice coffee set up in the corner!
The whole game day experience is so much better now than ever before!
Posted by Therese Curotto on 8/18/2012, 12:57 pm, in reply to "Re: WMG"
My favorite gym is Jenny Craig Pavilion for it's open air feel, very spacious entry. Seem to remember a popcorn machine at one end. We must be careful tho to not toss away our history.