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Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by donalum2001 on 7/2/2012, 6:08 pm

Angelo has been going off in the Pro am games! The kid is going to have a strong Euro Career and might possibly find himself in the NBA one day! any thoughts?

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by DonB on 7/2/2012, 8:42 pm, in reply to "Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Love to see him sucsede but I don't have a clue if he will meet the parameters of the NBA. My only observation re: the NBA may be that he is not fast enough.Fan not professional coach observation.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by DonsPride on 7/2/2012, 9:50 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Well, I am hoping that he would get an invite for the NBA Summer League because I believe in this kid ever since day 1.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by DDD on 7/2/2012, 10:14 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

this kid will be in the NBA one day..he is fast enough.. just wait and see he is only getting bigger and bigger everyday.. HE'LL GET THERE!

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Red Dragons on 7/3/2012, 10:55 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Anyone know what happened that led to Amgelo's siblings transfer?

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Dons Central on 7/3/2012, 10:57 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Personal stuff. Nothing to do with Angelo nor the basketball program.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Red Dragons on 7/3/2012, 11:01 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Fair enough. Thanks

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Don Solo on 7/3/2012, 11:21 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

In the NBA? Based on current abilities, no way. The only plus in Angelo's ledger is that he has consistently improved his game every year. Is his ceiling high enough to make him an NBA player? Maybe (probably not). It would be cool, though. Seems like a good kid and a hard worker.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Dons69 on 7/5/2012, 12:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

The only team that would appreciate his style of play is San Antonio. That said, I do not beleive Angelo will be in the NBA.

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Posted by mookie76 on 7/3/2012, 12:19 pm, in reply to "Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Angelo has just as good a chance to be in the NBA as did Ime Udoka, IMO.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Fact on 7/3/2012, 2:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Hes better than Elias Harris as well. Bigger, much better shooter, ball handler and defender, higher bball IQ, etc.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Dons Central on 7/3/2012, 2:54 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Saying he is "not athletic enough" for the NBA does not mean he is not a great athlete. Just not the over the top ones at his size in the NBA.

And I don't know if he has one particular skill that will make him stand out from the crowd. The well rounded, coachable, team guys that are very good college players just don't get much of a chance in the NBA.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by KSTATEZAG on 7/5/2012, 5:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Care to back up those facts?
Elias is heavier (although a mere in shorter), has a better shooting percentage--both in and out, has more blocks, and about the same number of steals. He is also substantially more athletic...
Fact, Info, WCC--your logic blows

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by STATS on 7/5/2012, 5:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

I have to call into question KSTATEZAG's blind defense of everything Zag. We all know that a Zag fan will NEVER concede that any WCC player is better than their one of their own. I would argue that Angelo is a better player.

Yes, Harris had a better 3 pt shooting percentage. 41.4% to Angelo's 39.2%. However, Harris (smartly) took way fewer threes. Angelo made almost twice the amount of 3s that Harris did. 56-29. Angelo was a 3 pt threat, Harris was not.

Angelo scored better (14.2-13.1). Yeah, Harris shot ONE percentage point better (50.2-49.0).

Angelo is a far better FT shooter. 79.3% to 67.2%.

Angelo also had twice the assists that Harris had (2.4-1.2).

Harris had more steals (1.6-0.9).

Both had less than one block a game.

Who has a better handle? Harris cannot dribble, so that one is easy.

Better defender? Harris improved, but lots of blow bys.

If anything, it is close overall. Take away the Zag hype and it's probably a toss up, with the edge to Angelo.

And Harris is two years older.

Correction

Posted by STATS on 7/5/2012, 5:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Angelo had more steals (1.6-0.9).

Hey Kstatezag

Posted by Fact on 7/5/2012, 7:31 pm, in reply to "Correction"

I think you just got served.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by KSTATEZAG on 7/6/2012, 7:46 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Really? You've still yet to prove he's a better shooter or better defender, which you claimed. This one will really get you fired up: Harris is a winner...
How many NCAA tourney games did Angelo win in his time on the hilltop?

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by KSTATEZAG on 7/6/2012, 7:48 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Also, since you added assists to your argument, did you care to take a look at rebounds?

Re: Beasley

Posted by Cresco Dave on 7/6/2012, 8:00 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

You think he is worth the $18 million!!!???

Re: Beasley

Posted by KSTATEZAG on 7/6/2012, 9:57 am, in reply to "Re: Beasley"

Not a chance in hell. I'm a Beasley guy but he lacks maturity and competitive fire for that kind of cash.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Dons Central on 7/6/2012, 9:07 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

" Harris is a winner... "

For those of us that might only see Gonzaga play at WMG, we have never seen Harris win a game.

Actually no current Zag player has ever suited up and won at USF.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by KSTATEZAG on 7/6/2012, 9:59 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Think that'll change soon?

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Dons Central on 7/6/2012, 10:03 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Who knows. Did you say the same thing that past three years?

Getting back to the basic point. I don't see Angelo playing in the NBA. And Harris' NBA stock has dropped every year. I don't see him in the NBA either.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by KSTATEZAG on 7/6/2012, 10:19 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Yes, I probably did say that every year in the past three years.

I will say this about both players: If Dior Lowhorn and Heytvelt didn't make the league. These two don't have a chance.

Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am

Posted by Purple Pride on 7/6/2012, 2:44 pm, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Heytvelt??? He's nowhere near the same category as Lowhorn.

His drug arrest notwithstanding, Heytvelt was an athletic big who wanted absolutely nothing to do with playing in the paint. If you can shoot like Dirk Nowitski or Ryan Anderson, fine. But if not (like Heytvelt)... meh. Just another big who wants to shoot threes instead of set screens, box out, and get layups.

Lowhorn could do it all - score, create, shoot, rebound, handle. He was just a classic tweener... didn't have the height to play the 4, didn't have the speed to play the 3.

Zag Basketball . . . . . . .

Posted by Fact on 7/6/2012, 9:47 am, in reply to "Re: Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

Talking about their Elite 8 since 1999.

PP...what is your thoughts about E Harris?

Posted by Riordangael on 7/6/2012, 5:51 pm, in reply to "Angelo Caloiaro Pro am"

You seem to have great insights on players? I would be interested to hear your thoughts of comparison of Harris vs. Caloiro?

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