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A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE

Posted by Roundball on 10/26/2009, 9:03 am

THESE KINDA JUMPED OUT AT ME:

* Both teams shot a combined 36-45 from FT line.....80% . Incredibly good.Vaughn 8-9, Williams 8-10.

* Green Team (Lowhorn/Vaughn et al) shot 61% from field for game and had 60 points at half. They also out rebounded other team 28 to 11.

*Bryant had (by far) the best Assist/Turnover numbers at 6/0.

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Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE

Posted by DonsPride on 10/27/2009, 12:46 am, in reply to "A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE"

Shooting 80% from the free-throw line is always good to hear and especially in the real game. We need to keep improving on the free-throw line because that may decide the game. Just like what Vaughn did last year to win the game.

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Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE

Posted by USF ALUMNA on 10/27/2009, 7:11 am, in reply to "Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE"

I appreciate your statistics. Last year, some people criticized Dontae Bryant. When I watched, I saw a player who assisted his teammates. Your statistics give credence to what I saw.

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Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE

Posted by Cresco Dave on 10/27/2009, 8:37 am, in reply to "Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE"

I've mentioned this in the past... Dior now has help inside, he's moving to his natural position and has developed a better handle which will allow him to take more guys off the dribble and go strong to the hoop. He only had 153 free throw attempts last season shooting around 68%.
Compare that to guys like Diamon Simpson, Jared Dubois, John Bryant,etc... who got to the line a bunch more times.

I don't want to see Dior get pounded all the time when driving to the hoop but I do want to see the referee blow his whistle and say "And one!" He's got a sweet jumper but it not have to settle on it as much as he did last season.

We of course don't want to overhype but it's scary to think what Dior will average this season if he shoots 75% or better from the line and if the players around him hit their open shots when they double Dior.

Going to enjoy every minute of his last season with us.

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Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE

Posted by Roundball on 10/27/2009, 10:28 am, in reply to "Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE"

Great comments. And regarding the number of FT attrmpts......last season it seemed that WCC refs had a different standard for fouling Dior. It was like "he's a powerful guy so we can let undercuts and hacks go as no calls go when he gets bumped". But others not so powerful seem to get the call. As a two time all-league player (soon to be three time) he should get the calls. Hopefully consistent treatment will be in place this season. Especially, as you point out, it's likely he'll be attacking the basket even more this season since teams will have to respect other weapons.

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Dior - Kobe

Posted by MJGoGaels on 10/27/2009, 5:23 pm, in reply to "Re: A FEW KEY STATS FROM SCRIMMAGE"

I would think that as the USF teammates pick up their contributions that Lowhorn's numbers might fall back a bit as he won't have to take over the game by himself like before and similar to what Kobe had to do before Dr. Buss brought in good help for the Lakers. Just a thought.

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Re: Dior - Kobe

Posted by Chris on 10/27/2009, 6:01 pm, in reply to "Dior - Kobe"

Oh, absolutely. I've said from the beginning that Dior could very likely see a drop across the board statistically, but he is still the best player in the conference (with apologies to Bouldin and Raivio) and will have an outstanding season

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Re: Dior - Kobe

Posted by Festus on 10/27/2009, 6:09 pm, in reply to "Re: Dior - Kobe"

I agree. Per Blue Ribbon, if he does somehow manage to repeat as WCC scoring champ, he would be the first ever to three-peat in WCC history.

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Re: Dior - Kobe

Posted by Former Yell Leader on 10/27/2009, 9:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Dior - Kobe"

Rex told a story that during practice, Dior sometimes sits back to allow his teammates the opportunity to score...Rex said that he told his teammates that they are playing with the WCC POY and should do everything in their power to make sure that he gets the ball as often as he can.
Makes sense to me.

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Re: Dior

Posted by Cresco Dave on 10/27/2009, 9:28 pm, in reply to "Re: Dior - Kobe"

I gotta agree with FYL... the ball needs to go through Dior as much as possible and would like to see him average at the very least 15 shot attempts per game.
Of course we want our supporting cast to get their shots and win but when you have a "horse" aka "lunch pale" player like Lowhorn for one last hurrah you go to him til the opposing team finds a way to stop him.

I respectfully disagree with the last couple of posts... Dior has made more improvements in his game every offseason than any other player in the conference (in my opinion)and I just think he's going lead the WCC in scoring for a third straight season.

PS- Just sucks what happened with Blake Griffin... I hope he gets back soon!

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Re: Dior

Posted by Donho on 10/27/2009, 10:06 pm, in reply to "Re: Dior"

I was really amazed sitting under the basket one hour prior to game time last year and just watching Dior work like an animal on his shot and just dripping with sweat. It is for that reason that 3 in a row is not only possible, but most likely.

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Re: Dior

Posted by Dons Central on 10/27/2009, 10:36 pm, in reply to "Re: Dior"

I agree that the offense still runs through Dior.

But, with the new guys, it should help them from double and triple teaming him all the time.

Also, this is the WCC. Lowhorn has done a great job of staying out of foul trouble in the past, but there is going to be a game or two when he picks up a couple of touch fouls early and needs to sit for more than anyone likes.

And, there are games when his shot is just not going to fall.

With more talent around him, it should help him score more since he is not the only guy and opponents need to guard other guys. But, it should help USF when Lowhorn can't carry the team.

Just for someone with time on their hands, what are the least number of points Lowhorn has scored in a USF victory over the last 2 years?

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Re: @Pacific

Posted by Cresco Dave on 10/28/2009, 8:43 am, in reply to "Re: Dior"

7 points!!!!

I believe he got 2 fouls real early!

Great point though DC... He's going to have a game or two (hopefully out of conference) where he gets whistled for 2 fouls early.

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Re: @Pacific

Posted by socal on 10/28/2009, 9:23 am, in reply to "Re: @Pacific"

you mean the games @ Arizona State and @ Washington?

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Re: @Pacific

Posted by Dons Central on 10/28/2009, 9:27 am, in reply to "Re: @Pacific"

"@ Washington"

I'll be there, so no, hopefully not that one.

BYU and Colorado St seem like quick whistle, non WCC venues.

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Random thoughts

Posted by a random guy on 10/27/2009, 9:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Dior - Kobe"

Sorry we missed the post scrimmage event - sounds like that was a special event.

When it happened I thought Smith was a little overly aggressive in his "take down". I also think this group is much more competitive - I also think Smith is fighting for playing time - and being aggressive is going to win points with RW.

I do not have the basketball knowledge of many that post here - but I saw a lot of speed - and some great passes, this is going to be fun.

With the added speed, the people on the inside that can play and the pressure that will take off of Dior I am actually expecting him to raise his ave. pts per game - I hope he elevates his game to even another level. I am very impressed.

I really liked the 'intensity' of the coaches and the players during the scrimmage.

We have waited a long time for this year - cannot wait another week for this thing to get under way.

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