Posted by Spot on 7/1/2009, 10:22 pm |
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Posted by QD on 7/1/2009, 11:06 pm, in reply to "2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Keating's problem isn't gettimg kids. It's keeping them. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Spot on 7/2/2009, 6:45 am, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
True - Who is the player?
Posted by BTB on 7/2/2009, 7:44 am, in reply to "2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
nm - Re: Who is the player?
Posted by Ironlions on 7/2/2009, 8:58 am, in reply to "Who is the player?"
Johnny McArthur
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=55451&season=2010 - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 10:01 am, in reply to "2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Message modified by board administrator 7/2/2009, 10:03 am"Dons were on this kid but as we all know we do not have the greatest relationship with the coaching staff there. Hopefully Rex can remedy this over time"
That would be great.
Just find out if Allocco has a problem with USF period, or if something can be done. USF does not need anymore Sims or Robertson situations where they think they have the player and then, for some reason, he decides "no" late in the recruiting process after he signs or says he is ready to sign. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons69 on 7/2/2009, 11:11 am, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Since he has directed kids elsewhere during the tenure of three different USF coaches it appears he has an institutional problem (which may be that we never offerred him the head coaching job). From the outside, it looks like he sees the only use of USF as tool to get his players offerred by other schools. I truly hope the jerk is not invited to the September clinic. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 11:23 am, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Well, from the outside it does seem like he might be annoyed that he was never even thought of through all the coaching changes.
Of course, I don't think SMC, SCU, Cal, SJSU, Sac St, UC Davis or Stanford brought him in either when they were looking for a coach, so maybe I am wrong. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by bkc on 7/2/2009, 4:11 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Other than Theo Robertson, who else from DLS would have been a good fit or impact player at USF? And, coming out of DLS, there was no consensus as to whether or not Theo would be an effective DI player. I don't think you need to worry to much about getting kids from one school. USF needs to get the best kids in the Bay Area period. Regardless of where they went to school. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 4:17 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
- Rekalin Sims signed an LOI with USF, then backed out looking for a bigger program. Maybe he would not have run into all his problems if he had just stuck with USF.
- The coaching staff felt they had a real under the radar steal in Robertson.
I agree that USF should not concentrate on just one school, but it helps if they can recruit from one of the best programs in Northern California. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by bkc on 7/2/2009, 6:14 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
DLS is one of the best HS programs but it does not necessarily produce top DI talent. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by a don on 7/2/2009, 9:16 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
bkc, DLS is somewhat in the same situation that Bellarmine football was in the '50s. The Bells were #1 then in Nor Cal, and their top players and Coach Hanna actually cleaned up on the McKeevers and the South in the North/South game in '57. But just as some of the Bells played in Pac 10 and Div I programs, none matched their prep excellence.
So I agree that RW should cultivate DLS's top bb players, but not fixate on them to the point that the very best in the Bay Area are overlooked. I think he is doing just that. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Roundball on 7/3/2009, 9:30 am, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Rex has clearly stated that he "recruits programs". Seems like a great approach to me. Sure, if a Bill Cartwright clone turns up at a school not know for consistent success and solid coaching, you put the full court press on. But if you could select just 8 schools of your choosing in NorCal and get a majority of their top candidates each season....you would do very well. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by QD on 7/2/2009, 4:18 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
True, Sims turned out to be a disaster. Since the Barry brothers, it isn't like DeLaSalle is cranking out star players every year. Why do you think Alocco grinds every game into a 42-39 final score? Because he doesn't have top individial players and has to stress defense.
I would rather we have a good relationship with the Oakland schools who produce top players consistently. The problem there is often academics though. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 4:45 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
On the other hand, I don't think it needs to be an either/or. You can have good relationships with all coaches in the area.
I think USF would love to be in on DLS' 6-10 center who looks like he is leaning towards Cal right now.
Also, I think the reverse is true too. I think most high school coaches would love to be friendly with a young, go getting college coach that played in the NBA. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by QD on 7/2/2009, 4:48 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Yeah, why would a coach "blackball" a local school that may be able to give one his kids a free college education? - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 4:49 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Message modified by board administrator 7/2/2009, 4:49 pmMaybe we all called his kid a few too many names when he was at SMC? 
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Posted by socal on 7/2/2009, 4:59 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
senator: did you ever refer to a point guard from saint mary's as "mini me"?
socal: i am not here to discuss the past. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 5:52 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
let's not even get started on Sufi then - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Purple Pride on 7/2/2009, 6:55 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Ooooooh man.... Kameron Sufi. I think he was the first WCC player I ever truly hated. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 7:29 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
My thought on him....
If I was playing pickup ball in the Panhandle and had to pick a guy, just on looks, I would pick the drunk under a tree hoping he could set a screen over Sufi.
When he went out to a bar and said that he was a starter for a Division 1 basketball team, how many people laughed and how much proof did he need to bring?
That being said, he was not the worst player ever.
He seemed to average 1.8 ppg, but then would just hit a key 3 (with a guy guarding him) when needed just to be annoying. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by 10 yr. vet on 7/2/2009, 8:36 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Come on now...Sufi was my boy! He had a great HS career at Mater Dei and was the starting point guard on the '97 WCC CHAMPS!!! He was actually a very good guy/teammate but I can understand how the opposition might not have been the biggest fans. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 9:14 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Like I said, when a guy that looks like he shouldn't be playing in a rec league beats you, that makes it even worse. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by strongpoint on 7/2/2009, 10:10 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
all i remember is gerald wallace taking a jump stop in the middle of the lane, bouncing straight up over sufi like he'd hit a trampoline and throwing down a ridiculous one-handed tomahawk jam. '95 maybe? - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by GloryDays on 7/6/2009, 3:04 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Yes, slight typo, Gerald Walker, looked like he would break his forearm. Thanks for the memory. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by strongpoint on 7/7/2009, 2:19 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
jeez, i called half the guy's career on the radio -- you'd think i'd get that one right. thanks for the correx. - Kamran Sufi 93-97
Posted by MJGoGaels on 7/9/2009, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
SMC records:
#1 all-time assists - 507
#2 all-time assists ave. per game - 4.6
#6 #7 assists in a season - 153, 152
#6 #7 assists ave in a season - 5.7, 5.4
#3 steals in a season - 56
#2 steals ave. in a season - 2.0
#2 all-time steals - 162
#4 all-time steals ave. per game - 1.5
#10T all-time in games played - 111
#10T all-time in games started - 81
Kam is a good egg and continues to make a living coaching and teaching basketball in Orange County.
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Posted by 10 yr. vet on 7/2/2009, 5:40 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
I could be wrong but I believe the 6'10" kid you are referring to is actually the 6'8" Johnny MacArthur who started this thread.
With regards to DLS and Alloco, I've known Frank for years and he definitely has a monster ego. That said, he is a very good coach and I doubt that he has anything against USF. He might not have had a ton of respect for Mathews, Evans or a number of coaches at other schools but he wouldn't be alone if that was in fact true. My guess is that Rex has more than enough ability/personality to make amends. To be honest, Rex and Frank strike me as being very similar. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons Central on 7/2/2009, 5:56 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
"I could be wrong but I believe the 6'10" kid you are referring to is actually the 6'8" Johnny MacArthur who started this thread."
It would really help if I were to read the beginning of the message instead of just jumping in and spouting off. Something I whine about all the time.
My bad. You are correct. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons65 on 7/3/2009, 8:58 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Ask someone at the NCS game of DLS and Newark what MacArthur did that contributed to DLS loss. If Allocco disliked USF, he would have sent him here. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by USF Fan on 7/5/2009, 12:12 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Please be specific 65, I can read so much into your post. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by Dons65 on 7/5/2009, 2:28 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
OK USF fan I'll be specific. With 23 sec. remaining in the game and DLS down by one, MacArthur was called for a block on the shot. He got angry took off his shirt and got TECH. Newark payer hit both fts for shot and both shots on T. Newark inbounded and hit basket. Now DLS is down by seven and lost by five. Let Cal have this problem. - Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to....
Posted by BBallFan on 7/5/2009, 5:33 pm, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Took off his shirt! You've got to be kidding! He took a charge and was called for a block - jumped up and said "what?" and was called for a T - Oakland refs... Don't be hating... He's a 17 year old kid and a very good player! !
FROM ESPN
Jul. 2
John McArthur, PF
Concord, CA
De La Salle H.S.
Scouts Grade: 92
Position Rank: 26 Santa Clara lands De La Salle forward
6-foot-8 power foward John McArthur verbally committed to Santa Clara on Wednesday, reports ESPN.com's Joel Francisco. He is the first recruit in the 2010 class for head coach Kerry Keating.
"Santa Clara got a steal when McArthur committed after receiving interest from Stanford, Gonzaga, Pepperdine, and UCSB," Francisco said.
"He's a prototypical blue-collar type that plays with a high motor. He has a Division I-ready body with fairly long arms, but limited bounce. However, his savvy, fundamentals, and toughness make up for not being an elite-level athlete."
McArthur will outwork opponents on both ends.
"John's a hard-nose rebounder that understands positioning and has very good hands," Francisco continued. "In addition, he has a strong drop-step move and he can hit the jump shot at the elbow with regularity. Overall, he should be very good in a screen-and-roll offensive set and/or pick-n-pop.
"McArthur should see time immediately as a true freshman and has the potential to be an All-Conference performer by the time he's a junior."
Francisco went on to praise Keating's recruiting prowess.
"Ever since Kerry Keating arrived at Santa Clara the recruiting efforts of he and his staff have been outstanding and there are no signs of it slowing down as he already has two terrific 2011 commits in point guard deluxe T.J. Taylor (Oakland, Calif.) as well as a defensive dynamo in Dominic Taplin (Oakland, Calif.)."
- Alloco
Posted by MJGoGaels on 7/7/2009, 10:10 am, in reply to "Re: 2010 PF recruit from De La Salle commits to...."
Was considered for the SMC job in 2001. - Re: Alloco
Posted by Dons69 on 7/7/2009, 10:36 am, in reply to "Alloco"
Was that the year you hired Randy? If that is the case, enough said about HS coaches ego. I am not certain that even an experienced, "big-name," college coach could do (have done) better than Bennett at SMC - Re: Alloco
Posted by MJGoGaels on 7/9/2009, 7:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Alloco"
Yes, Bennett was hired in the Spring of 2001 and first season was 2001-02. Remindered, Alloco's son also played for the Gaels 1996-00.