Dons69, I do not disagree that we should be, barring injuries, pretty decent. A good goal might be the NCAA's...but I also know the other teams were not unconscious when they signed up for the "shoot out". Their coaches were looking for the same thing we were...a chance at some name Division one teams. Which means they have good or soon to be good teams they want to groom. No coach signs up for Alaska Shoot Out when he is anticipating an off year.