Posted by JR on 1/6/2002, 6:55 pm Thanks for the kind words, Gordy. Actually I am submitted to Dave regarding the ministry of this board. It is a priveledge to be a part of it and any direction or rules that Dave would give I would hope that I would be complying. I think Dave was due for some recognition and thanks and his own comment about not doing anything for God just prompted me to recognize what I believe to be a real called-of-God ministry. The ordination part was tongue in cheek. I obviously cannot ordain anyone. Yet, I believe that God has ordained Dave for this work that has been ongoing now for a few years. I was attempting to acknowledge that. Lanny ---------- Posted by Gordy on 12/19/2001, 7:31 pm , in reply to "Thanks" Dear brother Lanny: I too have felt the same way towards Dave for a long time. I never expressed it the way you did but on a few occasions I have attempted to encourage him. I once told him that I truly regret not to have known him while we were both at the Chapel. Dave's honesty and the unpresumptuous manner he has managed this board has been a blessing to many including myself. Your "ordination" was only stating the obvious. I took it as tongue-in-cheek but the truth in your comments was fully valid. I think we would agree that God is the only one that can truly ordinate anyone and I too believe that mantel has fallen upon Dave here. God bless you Dave. So just how does it feel to be a pastor of such an unruly bunch? :>) Gordy ---------- Shucks! I'm speechless! Posted by Dave Kenady on 12/19/2001, 9:01 pm , in reply to "Re: Thanks" So just how does it feel to be a pastor of such an unruly bunch? :>) I fit right in with the unruly bunch. I don't quite know how to react to all the positive comments except to say that this board began as a result of my own need to know there was somewhere we could still be together and work out all the unfinished business from the Chapel. God works in mysterious ways. I was just following my heart. I am very encouraged to know that so many others have been impacted by our time here as I have been. And I'm glad to see there have been many opportunities for the stronger ones to encourage the weaker. ____________________ Posted by JR on 12/18/2001, 9:13 am Lanny, As a man who used to be a "saw man" in construction, I have a saying: "Measure twice, cut once". I failed to do this in my question to you. First of all, I am sorry for the accusation (though, honestly not intended that way, but that is the way it came out) that you were responsible for helping destroy CCBTC. I truly am sorry for my presumption and my lack of manners. Secondly, as a dear brother correctly pointed out to me, it looks like I was questioning your sincerity. I was wrong. I don't know you except through your posts, and you are FAR more gracious than I. I believe that Dave is doing a good work, and I know that you were simply encouraging him in this, and intended nothing else but that. My question to you was irrelevant, irreverant, and shows plainly before all my arrogance and ignorance. I sinned openly against you, and I have no defense for my sin. I offended a brother, and have grieved the Spirit. Every one of you that post here are my elders, for you have walked with God longer than I have, and have been through the fire. I have learned from you, and my post to Lanny shows I need to shut up and learn in silence. Sincerely, A foolish one. Hey there Posted by Lanny on 12/18/2001, 9:23 pm , in reply to "To Lanny and the rest of the brethren." Hello, JR. No offense taken. Your apology is accepted although not at all needed. This kind of controversy has brought out some hard but good discussions. I hope to meet you someday. Lanny ---------- Yahweh bless you, Lanny! Posted by JR on 12/18/2001, 10:01 pm , in reply to "Hey there" Dear Lanny, I guess I caught you with guile:) I challenged you on purpose, because I wanted to see some things happen. I saw EXACTLY what I was hoping for! I admit it, I was testing you and the others here. First of all, you didn't have to defend yourself, you had brothers that stood by you. Then, your response to Gordy was right on the money. Beyond that, you not only forgave me, but restored me. WHAT A WONDERFUL THING TO WITNESS! I hope to meet you some day too, in fact, I am sure of it! I will leave you wih a couple of "proverbs" our Master gave me today: (1) He who is forgiven much loves much; but he who forgives much loves more. (2) Don't presume to be a teacher, for then you exalt yourself. Put your focus on being a disciple, humble yourself and learn, strive only to serve, and you will be exalted. You are an example of both "proverbs". Thank you Lanny once again, for the authority of your example. With love, and in gratitude, JR Posted by Richard E. on 12/18/2001, 6:10 am Picking up from the thread below I just want to thank "Pastor Dave" for this forum that he has provided. Lanny is right that it has been a blessing for many. It has blessed me by allowing me to "reconnect" (did I say reconnect....forgive me!) with old friends and with those with whom I share a common bond. It has allowed me to express my views, views that I felt I could never share when at the Chapel. Several years ago, when I first found the website, it allowed me primarily to vent. And I did vent some. And the venting helped me! This board has impacted people more than you realize Dave. Personally speaking, it has been a part of a healing work that God has done in me over the last couple of years. Thank you Dave! After yesterday's ordination, I am now proud to call you my Pastor! :) Is it okay if I keep my moustache??? ---------- Richard, I Thought You Knew the Rules Posted by Author Unknown on 12/18/2001, 7:38 am , in reply to "Dear "Pastor Dave"" You can keep your moustache if you had it before you came to the web-sight. If you have grown it since you will be properly conditioned—I mean punished. Also your hair should not touch the back of your collar or cover your ears. Beards and sideburns will in not be tolerated. And don’t even think of wearing tennis shoes—they were not allowed on campus—I doubt that “Pastor Dave” will allow you to wear them on this board. Is it okay if I keep my moustache??? Posted by Dave Kenady on 12/18/2001, 5:57 pm , in reply to "Dear "Pastor Dave"" I'll let it go this time. ;) ---------- Posted by lanny on 12/18/2001, 9:16 pm , in reply to "Is it okay if I keep my moustache??? " I grew a moustache and it created a small controversy. I was called into Jack Dubois's office to give an explanation. Jack wanted to know why. I said, "Jack, somedays I wear a white shirt, other days I wear a blue shirt. I just thought to grow a moustache for a change." Jack said, "Well, two things every guy has to have, one is a moustache and the other is a convertible." That was the end of the discussion and I kept my moustache. True story. Lanny ---------- Ah, Dave.......... Posted by Richard E. on 12/19/2001, 6:12 am , in reply to "Is it okay if I keep my moustache??? " I also own....ah....well... four TVs, all connected to cable (no Showtime or Movie Channel though). Will that be okay? My hair is shorter than ever though! Mostly due to nature.... Posted by Richard E. on 12/19/2001, 6:04 am , in reply to "Re: Is it okay if I keep my moustache??? " I remember there being some controversy, Lanny, over the length of your hair (or was it the moustache?) that came out at a service one night. I thought Jack was involved. Is that right? I loved and admired Jack a lot but that seems pretty trivial looking back. ---------- Posted by Lanny on 12/19/2001, 4:27 pm , in reply to "Re: Is it okay if I keep my moustache??? " I can barely remember a time where some of us were called on the carpet for "rebellion." I don't remember the details. I do remember surrendering to the whole thing because I felt that God wanted us to "keep the peace." I felt that God would vindicate us if we were right and if we were wrong it was time to repent. I can't remember anything about long hair except maybe an innuendo now and then about my hair being too long. Lanny
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Posted by lanny on 12/18/2001, 9:08 pm , in reply to "Brother JR"
To Lanny and the rest of the brethren.
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