Posted by Dave Kenady/Steve B., et al on 12/30/2001, 12:34 am

Center of the Word Posted by Dave Kenady on 11/9/2001, 9:52 pm What is the shortest chapter in the Bible? Answer - Psalms 117 What is the longest chapter in the Bible? Answer - Psalms 119 Which chapter is in the center of the Bible? Answer - Psalms 118 Fact: There are 594 chapters before Psalms 118 Fact: There are 594 chapters after Psalms 118 Add these numbers up and you get 1188 What is the center verse in the Bible? Answer - Psalms 118:8 Does this verse say something significant about God's perfect will for our lives? The next time someone says they would like to find God's perfect will for their lives and that they want to be in the center of His will, just send them to the center of His Word! Psalms 118:8 (NKJV) "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man." Now isn't that odd how this worked out (or was God in the center of it)? ---------- Every fiftieth letter in the Pentateuch Posted by Tom Kosten Zähler on 11/10/2001, 10:33 am , in reply to "Center of the Word" A friend of mine, a former Chapelite who now works as an achaeologist in Israel, once told me it had been discovered by computer that when you count every fiftieth Hebrew letter all through the five books of Moses, it spells "Yeshua" (Hebrew for "Jesus") over and over again, all throughout the entire Pentateuch. Could that have been a zany coincidence? ---------- other thoughts Posted by lanny on 11/11/2001, 5:11 pm , in reply to "Center of the Word" The date of 9/11 is now forever linked with terror. ---It is time to call 911! I mean in a spiritual sense. This is a crisis, an emergency. ---Rev 9:11 Abaddon, Apollyon which means destroyer, destruction. ---Ps91:1 Time to experience that verse. Lanny ---------- Anyone have a Hebrew OT? Posted by Anthony W. Savini on 11/15/2001, 10:02 am , in reply to "Every fiftieth letter in the Pentateuch" Can someone verify this assertion? ---------- Verification: Confused one thing, but too-consistent-to-be-coincidence letter-sequences still there Posted by Tom K. Zähler on 11/17/2001, 8:53 pm , in reply to "Anyone have a Hebrew OT?" Although in the Hebrew of the Old Testament there ARE to be found some too-consistent-to-be-coincidence skip-sequences between the letters that spell out “Yeshua,” the thing I confused above was that the 50-letter sequence all through the Pentateuch spells “Torah,” not “Yeshua.” It doesn't begin with the first letter in Genesis, rather, it begins with the first Hebrew letter “tau,” which comes at the end of the first word in Genesis, “beresheet” (“in the beginning”), and from there you count every 50 letters. (In Israelite culture, the number 50 symbolized freedom. The year of jubilee was to occur every 50 years.) The letter sequence continues through Genesis and Exodus, the first two books, then in Numbers and Deuteronomy, the last two, it continues, except that in the last two books it spells it backwards, meaning (if we may take the liberty of interpreting it so) that it is pointing at the book in the center of the Pentateuch, which is Leviticus, where in its first verse every eighth letter spells “Yahweh.” In Leviticus 21:10, starting with the “heh,” the second letter in the Hebrew words “We ha’Cohen ha’Gadol…” (“And the high priest...”) and when you count every third letter, the phrase “Hain dam Yeshua,” comes out, which means, “Behold the blood of Jesus.” In Isaiah 53:10, in a chapter telling about the Messiah, when you start from the word “yarik,” (which means “he will prolong,”) and count backwards every 20th letter, it spells “Yeshua shmi,” which means “Jesus is my name.” In Daniel Chapter 12, every 11th letter spells “Yeshua.” Then following it, every 11th letter spells “El Shaddai” (“God almighty”), and after that, every 11th letter then spells “Yahweh.” Immediately after that the verse occurs that Dave was quoting to Steve some threads down that says, “As for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the time of the end.” The mathematicians who worked at calculating this also decided to try applying the same process to some other texts besides the Bible to see if any similar coincidences would pop up, to see if maybe it was just something about Hebrew that makes these words appear in all texts everywhere. They set the computer to count the same word-sequences on the Hebrew translation of Tolstoy’s “War and Peace” and other literary works, but none did. Only the Bible. (But if you change as much as one letter in the Hebrew text, it throws the whole thing out of sync.) Sonny Stevens says on his website: “With 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet, the probability of the third letter being the correct letter would be one out of 22, the probability of the fourth letter also being the correct letter would be one out of 22 x 22 (22 to the 2nd power, or one out of 484), the probability of the fifth also being correct would be one out of 22 x 22 x 22 (22 to the 3rd power or one out of 10,648), etc. “Obviously the probability of actually spelling out a long word or phrase would be extremely small. Although a person might expect a couple of occurrences of a particular short word in a manuscript as long as the Bible, the vast number of such occurrences recently discovered in the Hebrew Bible by teams of computer scientists and mathematicians using super computers at Jerusalem's Hebrew University and the Jerusalem College of Technology is so overwhelming, only those who have completely rejected God and closed their minds could brush aside this evidence for the authorship of the scriptures. (These studies have now been duplicated and confirmed independently by researchers at Harvard and Yale.)” It's a hassle to plug into entire texts in a Hebrew font on the Internet (it can be done, but it’s a hassle). But there is a letter-for-letter transliteration into Roman script in the link I have posted below, if you want to go to it and count the letters yourself. “Torah” is spelled “tau-wau-raysh-hay” in Hebrew. (Remember that Hebrew reads from right to left, and the transliteration does too, so you have to count from right to left, starting from the “tau” at the end of “beresheet” [which looks like the beginning, if you look at it left-to-right, as we are accustomed to doing in our Latin alphabet]). When you get there and the box appears in the middle of your screen, click “No,” then after it disappears, click, on the left-hand side, “TY#)RB—Genesis.” Link: Hebrew Old Testament, letter-for-letter transliteration into Roman script http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/hebrew/Bible/ ---------- I recall something like this in Music Ministry once.... Posted by Dave Kenady on 11/18/2001, 8:35 am , in reply to "Verification: Confused one thing, but too-consistent-to-be-coincidence letter-sequences still there" when George was talking about rock music, backmasking and annointing on music. He had played a number of hard rock examples and showed us backmasking in the music (the only one I remember off the top of my head is "Another One Bites the Dust" which played backwards says "Satan, he's the one"). Anyhow, he and Keith did an experiment and recorded a short portion of a worship song in 3-part harmony (I remember it was a very beautiful song). He played in forward first and everyone recognized it. Then he played it backward and it very clearly said something like "Jesus, the Lamb of God". It was amazing. I may actually have this buried on a reel tape in the back room. I'll look around. ---------- Posted by Marlene on 12/30/2001, 4:11 pm , in reply to "I recall something like this in Music Ministry once...." This is amazing to me. I'm surprised you didn't get responses to this post, but I'm interested, so if you have that reel to reel tape or more information.... please include me in the loop! Marlene ---------- A remark... Posted by Steve B. on 11/18/2001, 10:31 am , in reply to "Verification: Confused one thing, but too-consistent-to-be-coincidence letter-sequences still there" Doesn't anybody recognize a hoax when they see one anymore? "Kosten" is the German word for "estimate" and "Zähler" is the German word for "counter", or "numberer" (i.e., one who counts with numbers). Besides that, this whole thing is more in the realm of superstition -- it doesn't really have anything to do with seeking truth in the way God has chosen to reveal it. Sincerely, Steve Link: Home page http://www.seanet.com/~srborn/