Posted by Lanny, et al on 7/30/2001, 4:46 pm

Posted by lanny on 5/21/2001, 12:32 pm I believe that I have a Word From The Lord. Because this conference is being held at the former CCBTC santuary I believe many former CC'ers will receive some healing from events of the past. If you still feel some anger, hurt or difficulty from the past I strongly encourage you to attend. I believe that there will be a specific ministry or alter call to this effect. I also believe that God will use this time to set people free from the past. I believe that this is from the Lord. I know of nothing planned but believe that something will happen. Friends, the time is late. We've wandered in the wilderness long enough. It is time to get back to our original call and fulfill our destiny. There will also be individual prophetic ministry between services. Get your body into that nice comfortable automobile and get down there. Lam5:15 "The joy of our hearts has ceased, Our dancing has been turned into mourning." NAS Lam3:22 "The LORD'S lovingkindnesses indeed never cease, For His compassions never fail. 23 They are new every morning... 32 For if He causes grief, Then He will have compassion." Lanny ---------- Posted by Keith on 5/21/2001, 8:30 pm , in reply to "upcoming Heart After God Conference" When is it? ---------- Posted by lita on 5/22/2001, 11:25 am , in reply to "Re: When is it?" Look down the message list, there is a thread started by Dave on 4-14, and a link you can go to with details. Wish I could go! I believe it is over the weekend of the 25th of May. lita ---------- I am really looking forward to this... Posted by Sam Marmon on 5/24/2001, 8:33 pm , in reply to "upcoming Heart After God Conference" Its Thursday and I have one more day of work and its the weekend. I am going to try to be there early to pray as we did in the old days. I, too expect God to move in great ways both to those former CC'ers and those who have never known CC. I know that the facility there was built for God's purposes and I know that He is in control more than we consider. I do pray that when it is God's time, that place will again be used for full time ministry/training/evangelism, etc.. Be praying for this special time of worship. ---------- Re: upcoming Heart After God Conference Posted by Matt Geib on 5/24/2001, 9:19 pm , in reply to "upcoming Heart After God Conference" Hello To All I can Hardly contain my excitement for the conference tomorrow night!!!I am expecting God to meet me there in a BIG WAY:)....I am standing on Eph. 1:18-19(one of my favorite passages)I just believe the Lord will enlighten my heart & mind in a new & powerful way that will change me as never before!! I Just want to offer my love & encouragement to all of you....I know the Lord can do so much more than we can even begin to imagine!!!I am believing for all of you as well wether you can make it or not. Those of you that come I will try & touch base with. I love you all and am sooo!!! very hungry!!!! God Bless all !!! Matt ---------- "We've wandered in the wilderness long enough" Posted by EricO on 5/25/2001, 8:22 am , in reply to "upcoming Heart After God Conference" "We've wandered in the wilderness long enough. It is time to get back to our original call and fulfill our destiny". And what would that destiny be without the one who was called to lead and pastor that ministry in the first place, DB! You want the ministry but apparently you won't and don't want to acknowledged the one who was and is anointed and called to lead it. I hope and pray that God will move in a time of repentance for the actions of individuals towards DB and CCBTC during the split that never should have happened in the first place. I also pray for restoration of hearts towards one another and a willingness to forgive and a willingness to acknowledge past mistakes and actions that caused the split. As for "wandering in the wilderness" this would not have happened if we stuck together as one body, prayed, believed and trusted God (who is big enough) to see us through the difficult times instead of taking the reigns ourselves (speaking of those who did) and running the ship amok. We would still be one body today. I'm sorry for all those out in the "Wilderness", I'm thankful that by the grace of God I made the right choice and stuck with the Pastor. God is still moving mightly in the church with clear direction and purpose. ---------- Why I love my church Posted by Sam Marmon on 5/26/2001, 12:15 am , in reply to ""We've wandered in the wilderness long enough"" I am personally thankful for the sweet way God has been moving in my life since I left COA. I have been getting set free of certain demons that I struggled with seemingly forever. I have more of an evangelistic heart, and have found new boldness in reaching out to unsaved ones because I can feel comfortable bringing them to church with me. There is no sign on New Heart that says "private meeting - members only". I have been able to give up some worldly areas of my life that I clung to for years. I have open doors to ministry in music and leadership. I feel that I am under a balanced man of God as my pastor, one who is accountable and approachable and will take time to talk with me. I love giving my tithes to a church that uses the money to fund ministry and missions in foreign lands(as it says... go unto all the world and preach the gospel) rather than holding on to hundreds of thousands of dollars that is unused(kinda like the servant with one talent that buried it rather than have it used). I like the fact that the church I attend has a low divorce rate... just the kind of church that I can feel comfortable getting married here, having children, while having many older couples that have learned through the trials how to survive marraige that can mentor me. I like the fact that my pastor trusts others to preach and delegates authority and leadership eagerly without having to control. As a good brother in the Lord once said to me, only leave a church if you find one that is even better, where you can grow more spiritually than the previous, that has more light and vision. For me, at this time, New Heart is the BEST church I could possibly attend... ---------- From the WILD-erness Posted by Steve M on 5/26/2001, 2:12 am , in reply to ""We've wandered in the wilderness long enough"" God decides how long is long enough. Remember the plight of the Israelites who presumptuously tried to leave the wilderness to correct their previous error in believing the evil report of the 10 spies. The wilderness, though hard, was better than being under Pharoah. Likewise it has been better for many of us than being under Don. I don't mean that merely as a slam against DB. It's just that I have to admit that having to learn how to hear God's voice for myself has been good for me. ---------- Re: From the WILD-erness Posted by EricO on 5/26/2001, 8:54 am , in reply to "From the WILD-erness" Don is not Pharaoh, the elderÂ’s tried to convince people that he was that way to justify their own actions, and they pushed this notation over and over in their services. I was there, I heard it, and I attended both sides at the time, although I remained loyal to DB. Remember it was the elders who split up the church and kicked out the one who was annointed to lead the church. I believe the majority of anger and hurts were caused by the elders actions at the time. I saw this with friends and connections getting hurt and bitter over what happened and what was wrongfully stated during the services, and to this day many of those that I know that no longer attend church are still in this place. My disagreement is with Lanny's statement. He states that he takes for granted the facility we once had, what is a church building without out the people? and without the leadership from top down? I hope that in regards to this confrence and CCBTC of the past, that the previous eldership will finally come to grips with their past actions and true repentance and forgiveness will take place, and there will be restoration and acceptance between people once again. ---------- The 3rd side Posted by Dave Kenady on 5/26/2001, 9:22 am , in reply to "Re: From the WILD-erness" I'm with the 3rd side that you didn't attend at the time -- outside the Chapel -- whether it be the elders side or the pastor's side. And the 3rd side doesn't really much care any more about the dispute within the leadership of the Chapel. In fact, once the dispute raised its ugly head, it is apparent to me now that neither side was worthy of following. Most people have gone on and are involved in good healthy churches serving God. A few aren't. My sister attends New Heart. So does Lanny and Sam (a recent COA convert). Since Lanny was in leadership at the Chapel and Sam was a member in good standing at COA until the day he left, I value their opinions. I wish COA well -- my own daughters attend there. But it sounds more and more like COA is DOA. The minute I see COA involved in outreaches and missionary work or see Don appear at things like this New Heart convention so some healing COULD happen, then I'll be sure to give credit where credit is due. But COA keeps itself cloistered from the rest of the world, including Don. How can healing happen when he is in hiding? The convention is 3 blocks from his house. He ought to stick his head in there and join in. It would do him some good. In fact, the whole COA should have signed up. What a convention that would have been!