Posted by TheRoanBadger on April 2, 2016, 10:06 am
Payout for: Redmond, Nampa, Salt Lake City, Albuquerque, St. Louis, Atlanta, New Orleans
NIGHT ONE PAYOUT
PLACE PAYOUT POINTS
First $3625.00 Second $3000.00 Third $2375.00 Fourth $1750.00 Fifth $1125.00 Sixth $625.00
NIGHT TWO PAYOUT
PLACE PAYOUT
First $3625.00 Second $3000.00 Third $2375.00 Fourth $1750.00 Fifth $1125.00 Sixth $625.00
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by jim Bob on April 2, 2016, 6:41 pm, in reply to "ERA Payouts"
It is going to be on TV on Wednesday night on FS2. Roany what is the average paying.
--Previous Message-- : Payout for: Redmond, Nampa, Salt Lake City, : Albuquerque, St. Louis, Atlanta, New Orleans : : NIGHT ONE PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT POINTS : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 : : NIGHT TWO PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 :
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by jim Bob on April 2, 2016, 6:51 pm, in reply to "ERA Payouts"
What determines who is elite. Say a past world champion who is a member who clearly loses his edge, how does he get eliminated from the elite status
--Previous Message-- : Payout for: Redmond, Nampa, Salt Lake City, : Albuquerque, St. Louis, Atlanta, New Orleans : : NIGHT ONE PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT POINTS : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 : : NIGHT TWO PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 :
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by TheRoanBadger on April 2, 2016, 7:05 pm, in reply to "Re: ERA Payouts"
I have not heard of any average being paid.
--Previous Message-- : It is going to be on TV on Wednesday night on : FS2. Roany what is the average paying. : : --Previous Message-- : Payout for: Redmond, Nampa, Salt Lake City, : Albuquerque, St. Louis, Atlanta, New Orleans : : NIGHT ONE PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT POINTS : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 : : NIGHT TWO PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 : : : :
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by Big20 on April 7, 2016, 1:50 pm, in reply to "Re: ERA Payouts"
So would somebody tell me how they gonna make a living winning $3625. If they won every round that's only $58K for the year. I must be missing something???????
--Previous Message-- : I have not heard of any average being paid. : : --Previous Message-- : It is going to be on TV on Wednesday night : on : FS2. Roany what is the average paying. : : --Previous Message-- : Payout for: Redmond, Nampa, Salt Lake City, : Albuquerque, St. Louis, Atlanta, New Orleans : : NIGHT ONE PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT POINTS : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 : : NIGHT TWO PAYOUT : : PLACE PAYOUT : : First $3625.00 : Second $3000.00 : Third $2375.00 : Fourth $1750.00 : Fifth $1125.00 : Sixth $625.00 : : : : : :
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by Clint Wade on April 7, 2016, 4:13 pm, in reply to "Re: ERA Payouts"
I'll answer a couple of the questions that were asked above....
This year it will be the same 11 guys in each event at the regular season tour events. Halfway through the season this year, the qualification system will kick in and anyone can enter a qualifying a rodeo and count their points towards the ERA Finals in Dallas. The top 2 guys in each event in the qualifier standings will be allowed to compete with the other 11 guys at the ERA Finals in Dallas. Next year the qualification system is different. A 15 stop 2017 ERA Tour will consist of 10 athletes in each event and will have tour cuts before tour stops 1, 6 and 11 where the bottom 3 contestants in each event’s standings will fall off and the top 3 contestants from the Qualifying Race will be promoted onto the tour.
There is no payout for the average. It's 2 separate performances.
The guys competing, especially the ones that are stockholders of the ERA, realize this is a work in progress. It's not going to be an overnight success. Each rodeo can't payout $200-300k. The money is just not there right now to pay more than what it's paying. As it is, it's paying out $100,000 each night - $200,000 per weekend. Don't forget, these guys are only having to travel for 12 weekends a year this year. They are not incurring the expense as if they were chasing the PRCA dream 45 weekends a year. PLUS, the finals in November are going to pay out over $3m. So it's realistic for several of the guys to win over $100k this year and all of them will probably end up winning $40-50k. Here's another way to look at it. Between the regular season and the finals, there will be $675,000 paid out per event. That's allowing over $60k average per contestant.
Here is something for you guys to ponder and discuss. For a rodeo to be eligible to be a "qualifying rodeo" it must meet the following criteria:
-Must have all 7 standard rodeo disciplines, unless competition is an ERA approved event.
Bareback Riding Steer Wrestling Saddle Bronc Riding Tie-down Roping Team Roping Bull Riding Barrel Racing – Must have a minimum of $5,000.00 added money in the event that you are declaring points in. – The rodeo may not have limits less than 36 entries per discipline. – Can be any organization or open rodeo whose results are public and verifiable.
There are very few IPRA rodeos that meet this. There are even less open rodeos that meet this. I would venture to guess there are no amateur (CPRA, UPRA, CRRA, etc) rodeos that meet this criteria. So this leaves mainly PRCA rodeos to use as qualifying rodeos. Most all of the contestants can't go to PRCA rodeos so how are they going to re-qualify if they get bumped off tour? I'm sure this is something they have already discovered. They have almost a year to get a system in place that will accommodate the ones that can't go to PRCA rodeos.
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by jim Bob on April 7, 2016, 7:53 pm, in reply to "Re: ERA Payouts"
Wade, thanks for the clarification. They sure roped good calves. Breaking the barrier is only a five second penalty. --Previous Message-- : I'll answer a couple of the questions that : were asked above.... : : This year it will be the same 11 guys in : each event at the regular season tour : events. Halfway through the season this : year, the qualification system will kick in : and anyone can enter a qualifying a rodeo : and count their points towards the ERA : Finals in Dallas. The top 2 guys in each : event in the qualifier standings will be : allowed to compete with the other 11 guys at : the ERA Finals in Dallas. : Next year the qualification system is : different. A 15 stop 2017 ERA Tour will : consist of 10 athletes in each event and : will have tour cuts before tour stops 1, 6 : and 11 where the bottom 3 contestants in : each event’s standings will fall off and the : top 3 contestants from the Qualifying Race : will be promoted onto the tour. : : There is no payout for the average. It's 2 : separate performances. : : The guys competing, especially the ones that : are stockholders of the ERA, realize this is : a work in progress. It's not going to be an : overnight success. Each rodeo can't payout : $200-300k. The money is just not there : right now to pay more than what it's paying. : As it is, it's paying out $100,000 each : night - $200,000 per weekend. Don't forget, : these guys are only having to travel for 12 : weekends a year this year. They are not : incurring the expense as if they were : chasing the PRCA dream 45 weekends a year. : PLUS, the finals in November are going to : pay out over $3m. So it's realistic for : several of the guys to win over $100k this : year and all of them will probably end up : winning $40-50k. Here's another way to look : at it. Between the regular season and the : finals, there will be $675,000 paid out per : event. That's allowing over $60k average : per contestant. : : Here is something for you guys to ponder and : discuss. For a rodeo to be eligible to be a : "qualifying rodeo" it must meet : the following criteria: : : -Must have all 7 standard rodeo disciplines, : unless competition is an ERA approved event. : : Bareback Riding : Steer Wrestling : Saddle Bronc Riding : Tie-down Roping : Team Roping : Bull Riding : Barrel Racing : – Must have a minimum of $5,000.00 added : money in the event that you are declaring : points in. : – The rodeo may not have limits less than 36 : entries per discipline. : – Can be any organization or open rodeo : whose results are public and verifiable. : : There are very few IPRA rodeos that meet : this. There are even less open rodeos that : meet this. I would venture to guess there : are no amateur (CPRA, UPRA, CRRA, etc) : rodeos that meet this criteria. So this : leaves mainly PRCA rodeos to use as : qualifying rodeos. Most all of the : contestants can't go to PRCA rodeos so how : are they going to re-qualify if they get : bumped off tour? I'm sure this is something : they have already discovered. They have : almost a year to get a system in place that : will accommodate the ones that can't go to : PRCA rodeos. : : : : :
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by Clint Wade on April 8, 2016, 9:07 am, in reply to "Re: ERA Payouts"
Not sure why the barrier is only 5 seconds. I feel like, since they are trying to appeal to a different "less rodeo educated" crowd, they are wanting all penalties (barrier, knocked over barrel, single leg catch) to be the same penalty. That way it's easier to remember. Either way, whether it's 5 or 10 seconds, it's gonna keep you from winning anything. That's the main thing.
--Previous Message-- : Wade, thanks for the clarification. : They sure roped good calves. Breaking the : barrier is only a five second penalty. : --Previous Message-- : I'll answer a couple of the questions that : were asked above.... : : This year it will be the same 11 guys in : each event at the regular season tour : events. Halfway through the season this : year, the qualification system will kick in : and anyone can enter a qualifying a rodeo : and count their points towards the ERA : Finals in Dallas. The top 2 guys in each : event in the qualifier standings will be : allowed to compete with the other 11 guys at : the ERA Finals in Dallas. : Next year the qualification system is : different. A 15 stop 2017 ERA Tour will : consist of 10 athletes in each event and : will have tour cuts before tour stops 1, 6 : and 11 where the bottom 3 contestants in : each event’s standings will fall off and the : top 3 contestants from the Qualifying Race : will be promoted onto the tour. : : There is no payout for the average. It's 2 : separate performances. : : The guys competing, especially the ones that : are stockholders of the ERA, realize this is : a work in progress. It's not going to be an : overnight success. Each rodeo can't payout : $200-300k. The money is just not there : right now to pay more than what it's paying. : As it is, it's paying out $100,000 each : night - $200,000 per weekend. Don't forget, : these guys are only having to travel for 12 : weekends a year this year. They are not : incurring the expense as if they were : chasing the PRCA dream 45 weekends a year. : PLUS, the finals in November are going to : pay out over $3m. So it's realistic for : several of the guys to win over $100k this : year and all of them will probably end up : winning $40-50k. Here's another way to look : at it. Between the regular season and the : finals, there will be $675,000 paid out per : event. That's allowing over $60k average : per contestant. : : Here is something for you guys to ponder and : discuss. For a rodeo to be eligible to be a : "qualifying rodeo" it must meet : the following criteria: : : -Must have all 7 standard rodeo disciplines, : unless competition is an ERA approved event. : : Bareback Riding : Steer Wrestling : Saddle Bronc Riding : Tie-down Roping : Team Roping : Bull Riding : Barrel Racing : – Must have a minimum of $5,000.00 added : money in the event that you are declaring : points in. : – The rodeo may not have limits less than 36 : entries per discipline. : – Can be any organization or open rodeo : whose results are public and verifiable. : : There are very few IPRA rodeos that meet : this. There are even less open rodeos that : meet this. I would venture to guess there : are no amateur (CPRA, UPRA, CRRA, etc) : rodeos that meet this criteria. So this : leaves mainly PRCA rodeos to use as : qualifying rodeos. Most all of the : contestants can't go to PRCA rodeos so how : are they going to re-qualify if they get : bumped off tour? I'm sure this is something : they have already discovered. They have : almost a year to get a system in place that : will accommodate the ones that can't go to : PRCA rodeos. : : : : : :
Re: ERA Payouts
Posted by TheRoanBadger on April 10, 2016, 7:53 pm, in reply to "Re: ERA Payouts"
I wonder how many guys on the outside are really trying to get in? Specially since a number of guys said they didn't want anything to do with the new organization. So maybe the same guys will be on tour forever. Just look at the bull riding lineup, not what the rest of the world would call the Elite of bull riding.
--Previous Message-- : Not sure why the barrier is only 5 seconds. I : feel like, since they are trying to appeal : to a different "less rodeo : educated" crowd, they are wanting all : penalties (barrier, knocked over barrel, : single leg catch) to be the same penalty. : That way it's easier to remember. Either : way, whether it's 5 or 10 seconds, it's : gonna keep you from winning anything. That's : the main thing. : : --Previous Message-- : Wade, thanks for the clarification. : They sure roped good calves. Breaking the : barrier is only a five second penalty. : --Previous Message-- : I'll answer a couple of the questions that : were asked above.... : : This year it will be the same 11 guys in : each event at the regular season tour : events. Halfway through the season this : year, the qualification system will kick in : and anyone can enter a qualifying a rodeo : and count their points towards the ERA : Finals in Dallas. The top 2 guys in each : event in the qualifier standings will be : allowed to compete with the other 11 guys at : the ERA Finals in Dallas. : Next year the qualification system is : different. A 15 stop 2017 ERA Tour will : consist of 10 athletes in each event and : will have tour cuts before tour stops 1, 6 : and 11 where the bottom 3 contestants in : each event’s standings will fall off and the : top 3 contestants from the Qualifying Race : will be promoted onto the tour. : : There is no payout for the average. It's 2 : separate performances. : : The guys competing, especially the ones that : are stockholders of the ERA, realize this is : a work in progress. It's not going to be an : overnight success. Each rodeo can't payout : $200-300k. The money is just not there : right now to pay more than what it's paying. : As it is, it's paying out $100,000 each : night - $200,000 per weekend. Don't forget, : these guys are only having to travel for 12 : weekends a year this year. They are not : incurring the expense as if they were : chasing the PRCA dream 45 weekends a year. : PLUS, the finals in November are going to : pay out over $3m. So it's realistic for : several of the guys to win over $100k this : year and all of them will probably end up : winning $40-50k. Here's another way to look : at it. Between the regular season and the : finals, there will be $675,000 paid out per : event. That's allowing over $60k average : per contestant. : : Here is something for you guys to ponder and : discuss. For a rodeo to be eligible to be a : "qualifying rodeo" it must meet : the following criteria: : : -Must have all 7 standard rodeo disciplines, : unless competition is an ERA approved event. : : Bareback Riding : Steer Wrestling : Saddle Bronc Riding : Tie-down Roping : Team Roping : Bull Riding : Barrel Racing : – Must have a minimum of $5,000.00 added : money in the event that you are declaring : points in. : – The rodeo may not have limits less than 36 : entries per discipline. : – Can be any organization or open rodeo : whose results are public and verifiable. : : There are very few IPRA rodeos that meet : this. There are even less open rodeos that : meet this. I would venture to guess there : are no amateur (CPRA, UPRA, CRRA, etc) : rodeos that meet this criteria. So this : leaves mainly PRCA rodeos to use as : qualifying rodeos. Most all of the : contestants can't go to PRCA rodeos so how : are they going to re-qualify if they get : bumped off tour? I'm sure this is something : they have already discovered. They have : almost a year to get a system in place that : will accommodate the ones that can't go to : PRCA rodeos. : : : : : : : :