Posted by TheRoanBadger on September 22, 2015, 9:01 pm, in reply to "Re: ERA vs. PRCA"
Without a signed contract, don't see this going anywhere. But the world is screwed up these days, guess anything is possible. Guess it will depend on the judge that rules on it, then he will be overturned by another judge, and he will be overturned by another judge, and round and round you go.
However, to add one more thing. The PBR guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to compete at another association. They use to throw them out if they did. Not sure what they would do as of today.
--Previous Message-- : Without a signed contract, don't see this : going anywhere. But the world is screwed up : these days, guess anything is possible. : Guess it will depend on the judge that rules : on it, then he will be overturned by another : judge, and he will be overturned by another : judge, and round and round you go. : : : However, to add one more thing. The PBR : guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA : rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to : compete at another association. They use to : throw them out if they did. Not sure what : they would do as of today. : : : --Previous Message-- : right to work laws too... : : --Previous Message-- : Well, the PRCA is opening up a can of : whoop-ass! : : : http://www.prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/09/22/prca-board-of-directors-passes-new-bylaws : : Seems like anti-trust laws being violated, : but I guess that's for the lawyers to figure : out. : : : : : :
Re: ERA vs. PRCA
Posted by Jim Bob on September 23, 2015, 8:46 am, in reply to "Re: ERA vs. PRCA"
What is the qualifications for determining who is the so-called "Elite"? --Previous Message-- : ERA contestants are going to limit their rodeo : career and compete at the ERA rodeos: : : : https://erarodeo.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/breaking-news-over-70-world-champions-and-other-top-rodeo-athletes-make-group-announcement/ : : --Previous Message-- : Without a signed contract, don't see this : going anywhere. But the world is screwed up : these days, guess anything is possible. : Guess it will depend on the judge that rules : on it, then he will be overturned by another : judge, and he will be overturned by another : judge, and round and round you go. : : : However, to add one more thing. The PBR : guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA : rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to : compete at another association. They use to : throw them out if they did. Not sure what : they would do as of today. : : : --Previous Message-- : right to work laws too... : : --Previous Message-- : Well, the PRCA is opening up a can of : whoop-ass! : : : : http://www.prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/09/22/prca-board-of-directors-passes-new-bylaws : : Seems like anti-trust laws being violated, : but I guess that's for the lawyers to figure : out. : : : : : : : :
Re: ERA vs. PRCA
Posted by TheRoanBadger on September 23, 2015, 9:40 am, in reply to "Re: ERA vs. PRCA"
An NFR team roper asked the same question. So if he don't know....
--Previous Message-- : : What is the qualifications for determining : who is the so-called "Elite"? : --Previous Message-- : ERA contestants are going to limit their : rodeo : career and compete at the ERA rodeos: : : : : https://erarodeo.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/breaking-news-over-70-world-champions-and-other-top-rodeo-athletes-make-group-announcement/ : : --Previous Message-- : Without a signed contract, don't see this : going anywhere. But the world is screwed up : these days, guess anything is possible. : Guess it will depend on the judge that rules : on it, then he will be overturned by another : judge, and he will be overturned by another : judge, and round and round you go. : : : However, to add one more thing. The PBR : guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA : rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to : compete at another association. They use to : throw them out if they did. Not sure what : they would do as of today. : : : --Previous Message-- : right to work laws too... : : --Previous Message-- : Well, the PRCA is opening up a can of : whoop-ass! : : : : : http://www.prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/09/22/prca-board-of-directors-passes-new-bylaws : : Seems like anti-trust laws being violated, : but I guess that's for the lawyers to figure : out. : : : : : : : : : :
Re: ERA vs. PRCA
Posted by hackberryslim on September 23, 2015, 9:58 am, in reply to "Re: ERA vs. PRCA"
I guess they will be poached from the prca...isn't the college athlete and the permit cowboy the feeder system for the prca...I know the PBR cuts the bottom 5 and promotes the top 5 on its 2nd tier pro tour....I guess the ERA would have to adopt something like that. I believe the ERA is putting too much stock in how much star power will draw fans..In the prca most cowboys have to pay a entry fee..If the ERA doesn't require an entry fee from their stars..the money will have to come for the prizes from attendance I guess..or sponsors...maybe it will work..
--Previous Message-- : An NFR team roper asked the same question. So : if he don't know.... : : --Previous Message-- : : What is the qualifications for determining : who is the so-called "Elite"? : --Previous Message-- : ERA contestants are going to limit their : rodeo : career and compete at the ERA rodeos: : : : : : https://erarodeo.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/breaking-news-over-70-world-champions-and-other-top-rodeo-athletes-make-group-announcement/ : : --Previous Message-- : Without a signed contract, don't see this : going anywhere. But the world is screwed up : these days, guess anything is possible. : Guess it will depend on the judge that rules : on it, then he will be overturned by another : judge, and he will be overturned by another : judge, and round and round you go. : : : However, to add one more thing. The PBR : guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA : rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to : compete at another association. They use to : throw them out if they did. Not sure what : they would do as of today. : : : --Previous Message-- : right to work laws too... : : --Previous Message-- : Well, the PRCA is opening up a can of : whoop-ass! : : : : : : http://www.prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/09/22/prca-board-of-directors-passes-new-bylaws : : Seems like anti-trust laws being violated, : but I guess that's for the lawyers to figure : out. : : : : : : : : : : : :
Sounds like first year contestants have qualified.... 2017 before anybody new can get in?
Posted by TheRoanBadger on September 23, 2015, 11:31 am, in reply to "Re: ERA vs. PRCA"
ERA Rodeo -- Hi Robbie Raveling. Good question. The athletes will compete in the PRCA rodeos and at the NFR in Las Vegas if they qualify for it. They have decided as a group to not participate in the PRCA sanctioned tour rodeos and to focus only on the ERA Tour for 2016. Thanks for your interest!
Charmayne James --Donna and Trey - Over several press conferences, social media and official ERA news it's been stated there will be a qualifying system that ensures the best athletes. Anyone who cannot compete at the ERA tour level based on their performance will be replaced by another athlete that has qualified. That has been clearly stated. Yes a founder that is not winning will not stay on the tour.
Ryan Mason -- I love the idea of their being an "Elite Rodeo Tour" and I hope this does real well. But does anyone else feel like this is a "I am going to take my ball and go home" movement by these 70+ rodeo athletes. I am just concerned because it appears the investors/owners are the same ones who will be determining the schedule, qualification system, who qualifies for the finals and then be the only ones competing - at least in the beginning. For me to take this new elite association seriously, I need to first see the qualification system and the what happens to the ones on tour when they are not competing at a high level any longer. I would also like to see how you qualify for the finals. If you only start the tour with 12-15 in each event, what are the finals going to look like? Just some thoughts and questions.
1 · September 16 at 10:54am ERA Rodeo Hi Ryan Mason! Those are GREAT questions! The qualification system will be announced in Mid-October. Also, the ERA was created by the athletes for the athletes. They have a say so in every decision that the ERA makes. The decisions are not made only by the owners and investors. I hope this helps clarify a few things until the qualification system is announced. Thanks for your interest!
Bobby Mote -- Please don't take my response as snippy. I may not be Elite anymore but I think when you see the roster you will be very pleased. As I stated earlier the qualifying system will determine who should and who should not be on tour. Bottom line, win and your in and if you can't win against the 10 best then you will be replaced by the top qualifiers
Bobby Mote I'd like to answer a few of your questions. This group was formed to build, grow and strengthen the great sport of rodeo. As far as choosing which rodeos we do or do not go to. We've been doing that for years. We decide to go to Houston, Calgary, American or shootouts. When we go to those events we miss a rodeo in another town but yet that's ok in the publics eye. We have created a qualifying system that allows anyone with the ability to qualify to be on tour. The reason the details have not been released is simply because we are running tests on that system to be sure that it will work as intended. The reason that it does not start until the 2017 season is so athletes will have the opportunity to understand and prepare for that qualifying system. The reason that the first year's roster does not have a place for qualifiers is because the ERA is not affiliated with any other organization to have qualifications from. Our roster is made up with athletes from several different organizations. We made every effort to bring the best talent and most well known names to the fans. Unfortunately there were a lot of great athletes left out since the roster is 10 athletes in each event. The good news is that, based on ability those athletes will most likely be on tour starting in 2017. The qualifying system will ensure the best, most capable athletes will be on tour for years to come. Some have been under the assumption that the ERA is operated by the athletes, the fact is; The ERA is athlete owned and professionally managed. We recognize that our strength is what we do in the arena. We have hired the best, most capable professionals with over 75 years of experience to lead this league. I can assure you all that the heart of this group is to protect the integrity of this sport that we all are so passionate about and to bring rodeo to fans everywhere. I hope this answers some of your questions. It's great to see that so many of you are so passionate rodeo and I appreciate you interest.
--Previous Message-- : I guess they will be poached from the : prca...isn't the college athlete and the : permit cowboy the feeder system for the : prca...I know the PBR cuts the bottom 5 and : promotes the top 5 on its 2nd tier pro : tour....I guess the ERA would have to adopt : something like that. I believe the ERA is : putting too much stock in how much star : power will draw fans..In the prca most : cowboys have to pay a entry fee..If the ERA : doesn't require an entry fee from their : stars..the money will have to come for the : prizes from attendance I guess..or : sponsors...maybe it will work.. : : --Previous Message-- : An NFR team roper asked the same question. : So : if he don't know.... : : --Previous Message-- : : What is the qualifications for determining : who is the so-called "Elite"? : --Previous Message-- : ERA contestants are going to limit their : rodeo : career and compete at the ERA rodeos: : : : : : : https://erarodeo.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/breaking-news-over-70-world-champions-and-other-top-rodeo-athletes-make-group-announcement/ : : --Previous Message-- : Without a signed contract, don't see this : going anywhere. But the world is screwed up : these days, guess anything is possible. : Guess it will depend on the judge that rules : on it, then he will be overturned by another : judge, and he will be overturned by another : judge, and round and round you go. : : : However, to add one more thing. The PBR : guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA : rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to : compete at another association. They use to : throw them out if they did. Not sure what : they would do as of today. : : : --Previous Message-- : right to work laws too... : : --Previous Message-- : Well, the PRCA is opening up a can of : whoop-ass! : : : : : : : http://www.prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/09/22/prca-board-of-directors-passes-new-bylaws : : Seems like anti-trust laws being violated, : but I guess that's for the lawyers to figure : out. : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
ERA puts out news release. I wonder if working hard means lawyers?
--Previous Message-- : ERA Rodeo -- Hi Robbie Raveling. Good : question. The athletes will compete in the : PRCA rodeos and at the NFR in Las Vegas if : they qualify for it. They have decided as a : group to not participate in the PRCA : sanctioned tour rodeos and to focus only on : the ERA Tour for 2016. Thanks for your : interest! : : Charmayne James --Donna and Trey - Over : several press conferences, social media and : official ERA news it's been stated there : will be a qualifying system that ensures the : best athletes. Anyone who cannot compete at : the ERA tour level based on their : performance will be replaced by another : athlete that has qualified. That has been : clearly stated. Yes a founder that is not : winning will not stay on the tour. : : Ryan Mason -- I love the idea of their being : an "Elite Rodeo Tour" and I hope : this does real well. But does anyone else : feel like this is a "I am going to take : my ball and go home" movement by these : 70+ rodeo athletes. I am just concerned : because it appears the investors/owners are : the same ones who will be determining the : schedule, qualification system, who : qualifies for the finals and then be the : only ones competing - at least in the : beginning. For me to take this new elite : association seriously, I need to first see : the qualification system and the what : happens to the ones on tour when they are : not competing at a high level any longer. I : would also like to see how you qualify for : the finals. If you only start the tour with : 12-15 in each event, what are the finals : going to look like? Just some thoughts and : questions. : : 1 · September 16 at 10:54am : ERA Rodeo Hi Ryan Mason! Those are GREAT : questions! The qualification system will be : announced in Mid-October. Also, the ERA was : created by the athletes for the athletes. : They have a say so in every decision that : the ERA makes. The decisions are not made : only by the owners and investors. I hope : this helps clarify a few things until the : qualification system is announced. Thanks : for your interest! : : Bobby Mote -- Please don't take my response : as snippy. I may not be Elite anymore but I : think when you see the roster you will be : very pleased. As I stated earlier the : qualifying system will determine who should : and who should not be on tour. Bottom line, : win and your in and if you can't win against : the 10 best then you will be replaced by the : top qualifiers : : Bobby Mote I'd like to answer a few of your : questions. This group was formed to build, : grow and strengthen the great sport of : rodeo. As far as choosing which rodeos we do : or do not go to. We've been doing that for : years. We decide to go to Houston, Calgary, : American or shootouts. When we go to those : events we miss a rodeo in another town but : yet that's ok in the publics eye. We have : created a qualifying system that allows : anyone with the ability to qualify to be on : tour. The reason the details have not been : released is simply because we are running : tests on that system to be sure that it will : work as intended. The reason that it does : not start until the 2017 season is so : athletes will have the opportunity to : understand and prepare for that qualifying : system. The reason that the first year's : roster does not have a place for qualifiers : is because the ERA is not affiliated with : any other organization to have : qualifications from. Our roster is made up : with athletes from several different : organizations. We made every effort to bring : the best talent and most well known names to : the fans. Unfortunately there were a lot of : great athletes left out since the roster is : 10 athletes in each event. The good news is : that, based on ability those athletes will : most likely be on tour starting in 2017. The : qualifying system will ensure the best, most : capable athletes will be on tour for years : to come. Some have been under the assumption : that the ERA is operated by the athletes, : the fact is; The ERA is athlete owned and : professionally managed. We recognize that : our strength is what we do in the arena. We : have hired the best, most capable : professionals with over 75 years of : experience to lead this league. I can assure : you all that the heart of this group is to : protect the integrity of this sport that we : all are so passionate about and to bring : rodeo to fans everywhere. I hope this : answers some of your questions. It's great : to see that so many of you are so passionate : rodeo and I appreciate you interest. : : --Previous Message-- : I guess they will be poached from the : prca...isn't the college athlete and the : permit cowboy the feeder system for the : prca...I know the PBR cuts the bottom 5 and : promotes the top 5 on its 2nd tier pro : tour....I guess the ERA would have to adopt : something like that. I believe the ERA is : putting too much stock in how much star : power will draw fans..In the prca most : cowboys have to pay a entry fee..If the ERA : doesn't require an entry fee from their : stars..the money will have to come for the : prizes from attendance I guess..or : sponsors...maybe it will work.. : : --Previous Message-- : An NFR team roper asked the same question. : So : if he don't know.... : : --Previous Message-- : : What is the qualifications for determining : who is the so-called "Elite"? : --Previous Message-- : ERA contestants are going to limit their : rodeo : career and compete at the ERA rodeos: : : : : : : : https://erarodeo.wordpress.com/2015/09/15/breaking-news-over-70-world-champions-and-other-top-rodeo-athletes-make-group-announcement/ : : --Previous Message-- : Without a signed contract, don't see this : going anywhere. But the world is screwed up : these days, guess anything is possible. : Guess it will depend on the judge that rules : on it, then he will be overturned by another : judge, and he will be overturned by another : judge, and round and round you go. : : : However, to add one more thing. The PBR : guys are allowed to compete at the PRCA : rodeos, they just can't miss a PBR event to : compete at another association. They use to : throw them out if they did. Not sure what : they would do as of today. : : : --Previous Message-- : right to work laws too... : : --Previous Message-- : Well, the PRCA is opening up a can of : whoop-ass! : : : : : : : : http://www.prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/09/22/prca-board-of-directors-passes-new-bylaws : : Seems like anti-trust laws being violated, : but I guess that's for the lawyers to figure : out. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :