Posted by West Coast on February 27, 2015, 11:17 am
Help & Suggestions: I'm looking to purchase another saddle... I prefer the feel, build, and tree of a calf roping saddle, but team rope 99.9% of the time. I've seen some used Joe Beaver Martins for pretty good prices, but the horn height according to Martin's website is 3", where their team ropers are all either 3.25" or 3.50" high. Wondering if anyone has dallied on a Joe Beaver saddle and had some thoughts. I don't want to get stuck with something hard to dally on or have my rope pop off. I can't imagine a 1/4" would make a big difference. Any thoughts?
west coast...are you a header or a heeler?..how about tying on solid..how old does a heeler have to be before they allow that?
--Previous Message-- : Help & Suggestions: I'm looking to : purchase another saddle... I prefer the : feel, build, and tree of a calf roping : saddle, but team rope 99.9% of the time. : I've seen some used Joe Beaver Martins for : pretty good prices, but the horn height : according to Martin's website is 3", : where their team ropers are all either : 3.25" or 3.50" high. Wondering if : anyone has dallied on a Joe Beaver saddle : and had some thoughts. I don't want to get : stuck with something hard to dally on or : have my rope pop off. I can't imagine a : 1/4" would make a big difference. Any : thoughts? :
Hack, Mostly heel, but head a little occasionally. I'm 43, so I have a while. I think most associations want you to be 50-55 to tie on, and ladies can at any age. A lot of guys I know won't do it, makes them feel old I guess. I wouldn't unless I thought I really had to. I think its a little harder on the horse and just opens you up to a potential wreck. Although it never dawned on me while roping calves that being tied on was 'dangerous'...
--Previous Message-- : west coast...are you a header or a : heeler?..how about tying on solid..how old : does a heeler have to be before they allow : that? : : --Previous Message-- : Help & Suggestions: I'm looking to : purchase another saddle... I prefer the : feel, build, and tree of a calf roping : saddle, but team rope 99.9% of the time. : I've seen some used Joe Beaver Martins for : pretty good prices, but the horn height : according to Martin's website is 3", : where their team ropers are all either : 3.25" or 3.50" high. Wondering if : anyone has dallied on a Joe Beaver saddle : and had some thoughts. I don't want to get : stuck with something hard to dally on or : have my rope pop off. I can't imagine a : 1/4" would make a big difference. Any : thoughts? : : :
West Coast I have a Ammerman that I rope calves and steers out of and it has what Carl calls a two rope horn meaning you can tie two calf ropes on at the same time if your packing a second and I don't have any trouble with my dally. Usually the horn cap is the only difference between a calf horn and a team roping horn. Hope this helps.
--Previous Message-- : Hack, : Mostly heel, but head a little occasionally. : I'm 43, so I have a while. I think most : associations want you to be 50-55 to tie : on, and ladies can at any age. : A lot of guys I know won't do it, makes them : feel old I guess. I wouldn't unless I : thought I really had to. I think its a : little harder on the horse and just opens : you up to a potential wreck. Although it : never dawned on me while roping calves that : being tied on was 'dangerous'... : : --Previous Message-- : west coast...are you a header or a : heeler?..how about tying on solid..how old : does a heeler have to be before they allow : that? : : --Previous Message-- : Help & Suggestions: I'm looking to : purchase another saddle... I prefer the : feel, build, and tree of a calf roping : saddle, but team rope 99.9% of the time. : I've seen some used Joe Beaver Martins for : pretty good prices, but the horn height : according to Martin's website is 3", : where their team ropers are all either : 3.25" or 3.50" high. Wondering if : anyone has dallied on a Joe Beaver saddle : and had some thoughts. I don't want to get : stuck with something hard to dally on or : have my rope pop off. I can't imagine a : 1/4" would make a big difference. Any : thoughts? : : : : :
Most of the saddlehorns in saddles I make for team ropers these days are 3 1/2 inch with a 2" cap. Years ago they were a little taller . The thing is, you can only dally so low down the horn and if its real tall, it can make you dally higher and put more leverage on your horse. I have dallied with a 3" horn and have had guys dally on my saddles with that , but you need to make sure you're comfortable with that. --Previous Message-- : West Coast I have a Ammerman that I rope : calves and steers out of and it has what : Carl calls a two rope horn meaning you can : tie two calf ropes on at the same time if : your packing a second and I don't have any : trouble with my dally. Usually the horn cap : is the only difference between a calf horn : and a team roping horn. Hope this helps. : : --Previous Message-- : Hack, : Mostly heel, but head a little occasionally. : I'm 43, so I have a while. I think most : associations want you to be 50-55 to tie : on, and ladies can at any age. : A lot of guys I know won't do it, makes them : feel old I guess. I wouldn't unless I : thought I really had to. I think its a : little harder on the horse and just opens : you up to a potential wreck. Although it : never dawned on me while roping calves that : being tied on was 'dangerous'... : : --Previous Message-- : west coast...are you a header or a : heeler?..how about tying on solid..how old : does a heeler have to be before they allow : that? : : --Previous Message-- : Help & Suggestions: I'm looking to : purchase another saddle... I prefer the : feel, build, and tree of a calf roping : saddle, but team rope 99.9% of the time. : I've seen some used Joe Beaver Martins for : pretty good prices, but the horn height : according to Martin's website is 3", : where their team ropers are all either : 3.25" or 3.50" high. Wondering if : anyone has dallied on a Joe Beaver saddle : and had some thoughts. I don't want to get : stuck with something hard to dally on or : have my rope pop off. I can't imagine a : 1/4" would make a big difference. Any : thoughts? : : : : : : :
--Previous Message-- : : Most of the saddlehorns in saddles I make : for team ropers these days are 3 1/2 inch : with a 2" cap. Years ago they were a : little taller . The thing is, you can only : dally so low down the horn and if its real : tall, it can make you dally higher and put : more leverage on your horse. I have dallied : with a 3" horn and have had guys dally : on my saddles with that , but you need to : make sure you're comfortable with that. : --Previous Message-- : West Coast I have a Ammerman that I rope : calves and steers out of and it has what : Carl calls a two rope horn meaning you can : tie two calf ropes on at the same time if : your packing a second and I don't have any : trouble with my dally. Usually the horn cap : is the only difference between a calf horn : and a team roping horn. Hope this helps. : : --Previous Message-- : Hack, : Mostly heel, but head a little occasionally. : I'm 43, so I have a while. I think most : associations want you to be 50-55 to tie : on, and ladies can at any age. : A lot of guys I know won't do it, makes them : feel old I guess. I wouldn't unless I : thought I really had to. I think its a : little harder on the horse and just opens : you up to a potential wreck. Although it : never dawned on me while roping calves that : being tied on was 'dangerous'... : : --Previous Message-- : west coast...are you a header or a : heeler?..how about tying on solid..how old : does a heeler have to be before they allow : that? : : --Previous Message-- : Help & Suggestions: I'm looking to : purchase another saddle... I prefer the : feel, build, and tree of a calf roping : saddle, but team rope 99.9% of the time. : I've seen some used Joe Beaver Martins for : pretty good prices, but the horn height : according to Martin's website is 3", : where their team ropers are all either : 3.25" or 3.50" high. Wondering if : anyone has dallied on a Joe Beaver saddle : and had some thoughts. I don't want to get : stuck with something hard to dally on or : have my rope pop off. I can't imagine a : 1/4" would make a big difference. Any : thoughts? : : : : : : : : :