I bought that dvd about roy cooper just the other day. pretty interesting watching. he used a pretty big loop and not as much spoke as you would think. what are the advantages of less spoke or more spoke?....he seemed to be one of those magnetic personalities that draws people to him. I saw him at Stamford one year when he brought tuf when he was a teenager to rope. he was in the alley with a group watching the wild mare race and seemed to be enjoying it as much as if it was his first time to see that...maybe that's what drew people to him..the ability to have fun wherever he was...