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Posted by fred on 1/18/2009, 1:55 am, in reply to "Re: How to make caps for muzzleloaders"
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and it's a wonder he mentioned Backwoodsmen, because that's where I recently read about flint vrs caps vrs modern ammo in an apocalipse scenerio. I don't think, any of us alive today will/would/could out live the current supply of ammo. And it's true that even in the event of long term failure of our system to supplie munitions to the publc, the real survivor will be one who harvest's his sustinance in a quiet manner such as bow, or trapping. A gun shot can be heard for miles and will draw the quisitve.
In such a "worst case scenario" a caplock could be made into a "matchlock" easyier than trying to make a reliable cap without the proper explosive chemicals needed to ignite the charge.
I mean the metal cup to fit the nipple could be made from a pop can with your fingers,,but what makes it go "bang"!?? Hhmmm?
--Previous Message--
: Hi Bill,
:
: Yes you can make caps, there used to be a
: punch available that would turn thin
: sheeting into a cap, empty of course, and
: then you simply put a kids type paper cap
: gun cap in the empty cap. I tried it using
: ones off the red paper capgun rolls, it took
: two or three to make the gun roar, but it
: worked....finally
:
: It was available and discussed years ago,
: back in the 70's when Jeremiah Johnson movie
: had everyone all fired up on muzzleloading,
: mainly places like "The Backwoodsman
: magazine" had things like that
: advertised and articles on them.
:
: the flint lock is the way to go, I am a
: RABID flintlock shooter and builder, I hunt
: everything there is to hunt with flintlocks
: and so do my buddies, from starlings and
: ducks to crows and moose pronghorn to
: coyotes and all in between, but the
: flintlock is not a great choice for a
: survival gun....to be honest....compared
: with todays modern options.
:
: In one pocket of my coat I can carry 550
: rounds of 22 long rifle ammo, total cost
: about $15, a hammergun, like a savage 22/410
: or any 22 with flat springs is hard to beat
: as a long term gun, flat springs are cheap
: and one lasts for decades, cost of keeping
: parts to keep a gun like that running for 40
: years would be about $20 for life.
:
: in reality based on the take of meat off my
: traplines over the years I would say learn
: to make and use snares for small game if it
: is a survival idea you are pursuing. a
: trapper in NW canada snares over 5,000
: squirrels a season. that's a helluva lot of
: meat.
:
: While we always picture a Mountain Man with
: his flintlock rifle in hand in reality they
: shot very little.
:
: Ammo and parts were hard to get and
: EXPENSIVE, the gun was a tool they used,
: nothing more.
:
: If you look at the sales books for what most
: Mtn Men bought they did not shoot very much
: over the whole year, many used bows and
: arrows to make their supplies last longer.
:
: I hope this helps, maybe we will do an
: article on making caps over on
: http://flinterhunting.proboards.com/index.cgi
:
: I bet others are wondering about making caps
: like you are!
:
: Simon G
:
:
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