Posted by dave on August 20, 2006, 10:17 pm, in reply to "Re: Final Fight - Sentry vs Thor"
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Ok, no need to get personal. I wasn't meaning to offend you by not knowing you were a veteran here. Anyway, if it helps your case, I believe the Marvel site says that Sentry may be as powerful as the Phoenix force or something. All of these things are relative though. Sentry is much faster than Daredevil, yet DD can dodge punches from the Hulk. Hulk can land punches on Thor who will surely be able to hold his own against Sentry. This should mean that DD is in the same speed category as Sentry, but he isn't because it's a comic book. Bottom line is that if you think about it too long you realize that none of it makes sense.
--Previous Message--
: I agree, this is not a "vs battle"
: board. I also agree that the Sentry is more
: powerful than Iron man, and that anyone can
: lose in comics. And no, I did not take the
: (thousand) exploding suns thing literally
: either. It's just a hyperbole to make the
: character sound impressive. (Do you think
: I'm a rookie? Back off muther!) And who is
: to say that he couldn't take out a solar
: system? How would you know? That's just your
: opinion, based on no empirical evidence. And
: by the way, using your own logic, all you
: need is the correct writer, and voila, the
: Sentry would be able to take out the
: universe. Don't preach to me dude, I wasn't
: looking for your condescendence.
: What I was looking for was an opinion from
: all of comic book loving brothers and
: sisters everywhere as to whether or not you
: would like to see on paper what these guys
: can actually do. I want to know if there is
: anyone out there who feels the same way as I
: do that comics companies create these
: mega-powerful badasses, and then make them
: wear diapers.
: Just once, I'd like an intelligently written
: story as to exactly what a fight between a
: god-type and a superman-type character would
: be like if it was no holds barred. For once
: I'd like to see what it would be like if a
: writer and an artist were to OBJECTIVELY and
: impartially take such a scenario and play it
: out, without having to worry about the
: editors, and the sales figures 3 years down
: the line. I want a story where the creators
: stay true to the universe they've created.
: This is my appeal.
:
: --Previous Message--
: I don't think this is the place for a versus
: fight. However, I will say that Sentry is
: way more powerful than Iron Man but anybody
: can lose in comics. Spiderman beats more
: powerful foes all the time just by
: outwitting them or capitalizing on certain
: weaknesses. Oh, and I don't think the
: "power of a million exploding
: suns" thing is to be taken literally.
: Sure, he's powerful, but he can't blow up
: entire solar systems.
:
: --Previous Message--
: Someone posted an Ironman vs Sentry Fight
: earlier on this site. This is my reply.
:
: Iron Man is limited by the capabilities of
: his
: tech and his intellect. I doubt that Iron
: Man
: has a suit capable of handling the potential
: amount of energy that the Sentry could
: unleash. In terms of a sheer power battle,
: there is no way that Tony could match him.
: Not
: even if he unleashed every Iron man suit
: ever
: constructed on Sentry via remote or AI
: simultaneously. Not if he had every weapons
: satelite and sytem on the planet primed and
: aimed at the Sentry, not if every energy
: capacitor on the Earth was trying to leach
: Bob's power at once. "The power of a
: thousand
: exploding suns". The power/energy
: released
: from a single star going nova is enough to
: wipe out a solar system, and the energy
: wave's
: effects are felt galaxies away. Imagine a
: thousand stars exploding simultaneously.
: Tony
: cannot match that level of power step for
: step.
: Tony would have to outwit him, however it
: seems that Bob isn't an idiot himself. Tony
: has that 'Bruce' manipulative quality about
: him though, that underhandedness which Bob
: might not expect.
: A far better fight would be Thor vs Sentry.
: This could be that no holds barred fight
: that
: we've been craving for decades but that's
: never been delivered. That fight of legends
: which'll leave wet spots in fan boys jocks
: for
: eras to come. Have we ever seen Thor or
: Sentry
: truly ever go all out to the max, using
: every
: ability, power and skill at their disposal?
: No we haven't. There has always been some
: reason to hold them back. Sentry has feared
: the coming of the void, and has been scared
: to
: go all out. Thor is limited by his sense of
: honour and nobility in that when faced with
: an
: opponent who is less powerful, or a weaker
: fighter etc he'll fight at their level to
: make
: it fair. Bollocks man. I finally want to see
: a
: great artist and a great writer finally show
: us what these guys can do if they don't hold
: back. I finally want an intelligent take on
: what it means for these two powerhouses to
: be
: unleashed. I don't want to see any excuses.
: Each of these guys could liquify a human
: with
: a punch, could circumnavigate the globe in
: an
: eyeblink, could destroy the planet without
: breaking a sweat. Show us man, show us. I
: want
: to see Thor actually using his storm powers
: to
: their potential, and the havoc it would
: wreak
: when he does. I want to see him using his
: fighting skills which he has sharpened over
: thousands, if not millions or billions of
: years to their full potential. He is a
: warrior
: God. A viking warrior God. God of Thunder.
: The
: God of thunder. He is as strong as the Hulk
: (if not stronger - for those of you who
: dispute this, check up your history first...
: check the facts). He has energy absorption
: and
: release capabilities off the charts. He can
: teleport between dimensions. If he loses his
: temper he becomes ten times more powerful.
: He's nigh invulnerable. He moves at the
: speed
: of lightning. He's stalemated Galactus, Ego
: etc. HE's a freaking viking warrior God. I
: wish that Marvel would finally write him as
: they should. Show us what this guy can do.
: Show us what the effect of a fight he's in
: does to the planet. And then we have the
: Sentry. Marvel's Superman, who makes the man
: of Steel look rusted. He too has stalemated
: Galactus. He took out Terrax as if he was a
: gnat. He took out the collective X-man,
: Avengers & FF. He's as fast as light.
: Power
: off the charts. A brawler, he seems as if
: he's
: not a skilled fighter, but s#$t he just
: needs
: to out power you.
: Thor has survived being blasted from Asgard
: to
: Earth (by Odin), he's survived blasts that
: destroyed planets, encounters with the
: Celestials... all with no great visible harm
: to himself. His God Essence Blast,
: anti-matter
: blasts, and vortex's are second to none in
: terms of raw power.
: I've always wanted to see proper fight
: between
: god-like individuals like this. To date,in
: all
: of comics, in all companies it has not
: happened. Say what you want, the writers and
: artists have just not thought it through
: thoroughly enough, have not considered all
: of
: the physics, have not catered to all aspects
: and situations. Or they've been chicken
: shit.
: Damnit show us this fight, and make it a
: minimum of twelve issues long. These are,
: bar
: none, the two most powerful hero-type
: characters in mainstream comics. Us fans
: deserve to see what their throw down would
: actually be like. Imagine a super fight
: where
: everything was written and drawn as how it
: would happen if these characters and their
: abilities were real. Imagine the effect on
: the
: populace. Imagine the sheer deafening sound
: of
: this fight. Imagine the shock waves, the
: upheavel, the sonic booms. Imagine if the
: fight was taken into the depths of the ocean
: (and factors such as ocean pressure,
: earthquakes, lack of oxygen were
: considered),
: imagine if the fight carried onto or into
: the
: sun and the sheer heat and gravity were
: considered. Imagine if reflexes were truly
: considered. What about the speed, force and
: pressure of a super fast punch connecting?
: Imagine how terrified the normal folk (and
: superfolk for that matter) would be due to a
: fight that's reshaping the planet.
: Is this not what super brawls in comics
: should
: be like?
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