Posted by Joyce on 3/22/2007, 12:40 pm, in reply to "Re: His Appearing and His Coming" You wrote that in II Thess. 2:8 "epipheneia" is a "characteristic", but in the prison epistles it is "an event". If one considers only the English translation then I can see where you might think that. But, in my opinion, we must think in terms of the Greek in every occurrence. Therefore, I see no reason not to see "epipheneia" as a characteristic in every occurrence. In other words, I don't think that the word changed meaning with the change of dispensations. Concerning "phaneroo" you wrote, "we are looking for his appearing (manifestation, 'phanaroo,' in glory) where we shall be manifested with Him". But "phaneroo" is also used in connection with His parousia in I Jn, 2:28. That makes phaneroo a characteristic of the parousia also, along with "eipheneia". I think you have a good point when you wrote that we are not looking for Christ's bodily presence here on earth. But we are looking for His coming which will be the time of our resurrection. Lynn mentioned the fact that some words used in connection with the parousia are used more often in the prison epistles than they are in the Acts period epistles. I think that is siginificant in that the characteristic of the epipheneia (shinning forth) and brightness in relation to His coming is emphasized. But many have concluded that that indicates a different time for the epipheneia and the phaneoroo than His parousia. That would mean that the church will be resurrected at a time not ever mentioned in God's Word in a resurrection also not ever mentioned in God's Word. In short, I think that there is some significance to the more prevelant use of the words in the prison epistles, but the prevelancy does not mean a different resurrection for the church which is His body. That way we don't have to make up a resurrection that is not mentioned. In Christ,
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Dear Chris,
