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Re: Want a good laugh?
I think the M&Ms story has been told before but just in case you didn't know the story behind it. In the '70's Van Halen became one of the first bands to bring all their staging to each venue...that included lighting, sound, sets everything.In those days they didn't always have arenas to play in and had to settle for city auditoriums etc. Because Van Halen hung their trusses etc from what's called the "low steel" the equipment was very heavy. In their contract, it was specified that the venue had to be able to hang so many pounds of equipment. Often, when Van Halen reached a venue, they would find out the venue couldn't handle the load. That led to all kinds of production problems and a few cancelled shows. Because it was specified in the contract, it was clear that the promoters and building management wasn't reading the rider portion of the document. So Van Halen, in the middle of their production needs put in an M&M clause. Something like 3 large bowls of M&M's with the yellow ones removed. If the promoter caught that clause, then he was probably thoroughly reading the contract. When the band got to the venue, they immediately checked their dressing rooms...bowls of M&Ms with yellow ones removed probably meant the production requirements were met.
First, just to clarify, this document is not the "contract." What the contract contains are all of the financial details.
How the revenues are split. You see the term "purchaser"...This is written for the "promoter." Some promoters and acts prefer to have a guaranteed fee for the show....anything over that fee belongs to the promoter or the venue. When a promoter considers taking on an act...he considers what the possible gross sales would be. Let's say a sold out venue for ABC Band would bring in $100,000. The promoter has to figure advertising costs, building rent, taxes etc. When he does the math, lets say his best case scenario is $60K after expenses. So he does this: He calls the band and tells them he (the promoter) will buy the show for $65K. This means the promoter will do all the work to market the show and the band just shows up....gets the check and goes home. If the concert tanks, the promoter still owes the band $65K. What Rick posted is the contract "Rider". This specifies the "extras" needed by the group. That includes hotel specs, transportation, limited catering etc. With major acts that I've worked with, the rider will specify what kind of food for catering. Catering usually lasts from load-in to load-out. The rider specifies how the dressing rooms are set up and what kind of food should be in the dressing rooms. Then their's post show....so many cases of beer for the busses etc. But all this is paid for by the act. The promoter, or in most cases, the venue facilitates gathering all the things listed in the rider. I remember working a show with Sting. His catering bill was around $35,000...just catering.
Josh, I was wondering about the green M&M's myself! LOL! I was also wondering about the need for an autograph table. And they were pretty free with the word "talent" in the contract. Just unbelievable. MTABob
But what about green M&M's?
Is Paul really playing whatever old plywood upright they can find lying about? I can envision hairy old gut strings and a fingerboard that hasn't been dressed since the Truman administration-straight out of a high school music room. He used to have a Czech-Ease for travel.
Here's a real joke. Someone just sent this to me. He found it on a Google search for Kingston Trio. Read this thing. They must think they're the divas of the entertainment world. First class hotels, catered meals between sound checks and performance? Are you friggin' kidding me? Somewhere I have contract of the Bob, George and I'm not sure who the third was at the time.But it's a ONE PAGE contract. This thing just really illustrates how arrogant and self important Josh and the Marvinettes think they are. And if anyone doesn't like me posting this here, (like an occasional visitor from Crossroads) too effing bad. It's on the internet and therefore available for anyone to see.