Re: 12 String Guitars
Josh; I still have my F212-XL which I bought in Carmel, CA in about 1972. Still sounds great!!...Joe P
I suspect a Taylor would sound more or less like a Taylor even if it had a dovetail. There are just too many other variables to distill it down to neck joint construction.
As far as the extra inch? You betcha! Ever play an F112, F212 and an F212XL side by side? More bass, more volume-just more junk in the trunk. My 18" 12 string is a huge sounding guitar, more so than the 17" Guilds I have owned(and they are hardly shrinking violets).
I can only assume Guild didn't do more 18" 12 strings due to warranty issues. I'm guessing they were more prone to belly the top.
Just curious. Can that one extra inch across the lower bout really have made that much difference in the sound? I know it's probably not just one inch, but the addition of the inch increased the overall square footage inside the guitar, but again, was it that much and did the guitar sound that much better? Again, just curious.
John Denver replaced his F512 with an F612 in the early 70's. 18" across the lower bout, and rare as hen's teeth. I've always hoped they would reissue that, but they never have.
I knew Guild was slowly re-introducing some USA made guitars, and word on the 'net is that they are quite good.
For me, the Taylor neck joint would be a major selling point were I to buy another 12. I had to reset my Guild about 12 years in, and between the maple neck, wide heel, and a dovetail so tight you could barely get it apart-that bolt on set up is looking mighty fine!
There are four major American guitar manufacturers who offer 12-string guitars. These are Martin, Gibson, Taylor and Guild. All make fine guitars.
I have a 1973 Martin D12-35, a 12-fret rosewood slothead which chimes like a bell choir. I understand that the mahogany version, the D12-20, is possibly even better.
But if I were in the 12-string market today, I would not get either of these. This is because Guild has just announced the reissue of its fabulous F512. This was the guitar of choice for Tom Petty, John Denver and many others. Acoustic Guitar Magazine's review rated it at the top.
So, 12-string seekers, there is hope! Be sure to test this one out if you can. I would love to try one out but am slowly moving into guitar disposal mode, not acquisition.
George Grove's post on the Rob Reider thread got me thinking-how many of us here are 12 string aficionados? They don't seem to get the love right now that they have in decades past, but I suspect they'll come around again.
I got my first 12 when I was 12(ironic, eh?). I've never been without one since. I dig 'em! I know Rick likes 'em, too.
What say you?
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