Posted by Illuminati on 7/26/2005, 9:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Long but worth reading..." "You don't seem to want to learn about Islam. All we've seen you do so far is disprove the Quran and try to convert Muslims by posting things like 'validity of the Bible' etc." I actually began the posts on the validity of the Bible because of posts put up by the Muslims trashing the Bible. At the time, I didn't think the Muslims would actually read it and still doubt any did. However, reviewing the data and writing it was fun. I have learned a great deal about Islam at this site, thank-you. For example, I started out reading the Koran and found it had as many or more verses telling who Allah doesn't love as those who say who Allah does love. I found Allah only loved those who fulfilled certain conditions. Allah's "love" according to the Koran is highly conditional. I reasoned that Muslims can't be more moral than their God so decided they probably didn't love most people. By asking the Muslims here if that was their understanding it helped confirm what I had already read. I also learned the Muslims have a very rigid fundamentalist approach to their writings which won't stand up to close investigation or questioning. I suspect that is why there are fatwas of death against people like Salmon Rushdie. I believe it is possible that what Muslims fear most of all are people who actually read their holy books, think about what they say and ask embarrassing questions. If the Muslims don't like my questions, it will be interesting to observe their reactions when they begin reading the results of the textual critics who have unearthed very interesting information about the formation of the Koran and the hadiths. "The damage and suffering is caused by people misunderstanding and misinterpreting scriptures and also unaccepting and disrespecting other people's beliefs." This passage could refer to the Muslims who misunderstand their own writings and disrespect other people's beliefs or it could be directed against me. I assume I'm the target of the criticism here. How I am responsible for Muslims blowing up commuters in a subway train in England is beyond me. Disrespecting other people's beliefs is another question altogether. I have seen no respect for other people's beliefs by the Muslims posting here. As a "kaffur" who the Muslims consider unworthy of love what logical reason could anyone offer to cause me to "respect" Islamic theology? If I love myself and the other 80% of the world's population whom the Muslims teach are unworthy of love, how can I respect Muslim theology which doesn't teach a universal love for humanity? Multiculturalism is based on the assumption that all religions teach basically the same things, however Islam has shown us there are exceptions to this rule. The Muslims posting here probably consider themselves "moderate" non-violent individuals generally. However "moderate" Muslims who are willing to view at least 80% of the world's population as unworthy of love set the stage for the more radical elements in the religion to operate. In other words "moderates" who teach that most other people aren't worthy of love are part of the problem and can not be in any way helpful in combating terrorism. I have observed that once one puts their personal ideology above love for other people, they have set the stage to love no one. From the earliest times, Muslims have been almost as quick to kill each other over differences in ideology or in power struggles as to kill non-Muslims. Either we cultivate love in our hearts for everyone or we prepare ourselves to love no one. Love can't be turned off and own like a faucet. "Anyway, there's not much you can learn from a message board, a lot of the posts contain biased views and sometimes incorrect information so if you really wanted to learn about Islam and get accurate information you'd look at Islamic websites, books etc." I'm not sure there is any completely accurate source for information but every little bit helps in gaining a complete picture. I have learned a great deal here and wish to thank the Muslims for the education.
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